The 2024 US House & Senate (& Presidential Election) and the Michigan Legislature - Who do you Think Wins?

No, she definitely should not run again.

Kildee is a flint guy.

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I'm just so glad we are doing biden/trump again. The two old farts are much older farts now and yet we are going to run it back because it was so much fun the first time

aualum06 wrote:I'm just so glad we are doing biden/trump again. The two old farts are much older farts now and yet we are going to run it back because it was so much fun the first time

The Flatulating Felon against Sleepy Joe. Should be a wonderful time for all.

Jake from State Farm wrote:

aualum06 wrote:I'm just so glad we are doing biden/trump again. The two old farts are much older farts now and yet we are going to run it back because it was so much fun the first time

The Flatulating Felon against Sleepy Joe. Should be a wonderful time for all.

"We" made our choices clear in the primaries.

I don't think much of Trump, however, "Sleepy" just got a major foreign funding bill passed with a bipartisan vote in the House.

Trapper Gus wrote:

Jake from State Farm wrote:

The Flatulating Felon against Sleepy Joe. Should be a wonderful time for all.

"We" made our choices clear in the primaries.

I don't think much of Trump, however, "Sleepy" just got a major foreign funding bill passed with a bipartisan vote in the House.

Lindsey Graham is giving "President" Trump credit for the bill passing

Lindsey Graham Crediting Trump for Ukraine Aid Passing Raises Eyebrows

Jake from State Farm wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:

"We" made our choices clear in the primaries.

I don't think much of Trump, however, "Sleepy" just got a major foreign funding bill passed with a bipartisan vote in the House.

Lindsey Graham is giving "President" Trump credit for the bill passing

Lindsey Graham Crediting Trump for Ukraine Aid Passing Raises Eyebrows

Trump was totally against it before he saw it was going to pass (after Johnson's visit) with or without him, so he flipped and is hoping no one notices.

Don't know where the "loan" part of the bill originated but yes, Trump did promote it, so he does get a small amount of credit. (pun intended and he needs all the credit he can scrounge to pay his bills)

The Trumpyest of the Republicans in the House voted against it, that pretty much tells where Trump was.

As for the "loan", it is forgivable, just like all the PPA loans that all those Trumpy Republicans in the House took and didn't pay back.

https://apnews.com/article/west-virginia-joe-manchin-glenn-elliott-8b8ad1cb4989b4dc253b7cf95932285e

Keep the WV Seante seat blue is a long shot, here is who Manchin is endorsing.

Trapper Gus wrote:Michigan U.S. Senate race

Republican field includes

1 - U.S. Reps. Mike Rogers
2 - U.S. Reps. Peter Meijer
4 - U.S. Rep. Justin Amash
6 - Sandy Pensler
8 - Sherry O'Donnell

3 - Detroit police chief James Craig
5 - State Board of Education member Nikki Snyder
7 - Michael Hoover
9 - Alexandria Taylor
10 - J.D. Wilson
12 - Sharon Savage
13 - Bensson Samual
14 - Glen Wilson
15 - Rebekah Curran

Democratic field features

1 - U.S. Rep. Elissa Slotkin
2 - Hill Harper
3 - Nasser Beydoun

4 - Zack Burns
5 - Leslie Love
6 - Pamela Pugh

https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-government/whos-running-us-senate-michigan-race-succeed-debbie-stabenow

And a rundown of who is running for US House seats...

https://michiganadvance.com/2024/04/23/many-michigan-congressional-races-thin-out-as-candidate-filing-deadline-passes/

Trapper Gus wrote:Michigan U.S. Senate race

Republican field includes

1 - U.S. Reps. Mike Rogers
4 - U.S. Rep. Justin Amash
6 - Sandy Pensler
8 - Sherry O'Donnell

2 - U.S. Reps. Peter Meijer
3 - Detroit police chief James Craig
5 - State Board of Education member Nikki Snyder
7 - Michael Hoover
9 - Alexandria Taylor
10 - J.D. Wilson
12 - Sharon Savage
13 - Bensson Samual
14 - Glen Wilson
15 - Rebekah Curran

Democratic field features

1 - U.S. Rep. Elissa Slotkin
2 - Hill Harper
3 - Nasser Beydoun

4 - Zack Burns
5 - Leslie Love
6 - Pamela Pugh

https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-government/whos-running-us-senate-michigan-race-succeed-debbie-stabenow

And a rundown of who is running for US House seats...

https://michiganadvance.com/2024/04/23/many-michigan-congressional-races-thin-out-as-candidate-filing-deadline-passes/

https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-government/whos-running-us-senate-michigan-peter-meijer-drops-out

Just in case anyone is interested. Trump is planning on leaving another small town in Michigan holding the bag for his campaign security.

Getting ready: Former president Donald Trump is scheduled to visit the MBS International Airport in Tittabawassee Township on Wednesday, May 1, for his 2024 presidential campaign rally. Officials are preparing for a crowd of nearly 10,000 attendees, nearly doubling Freeland's population. Here's a look at how the small town plans to manage the event.

Jake from State Farm wrote:Just in case anyone is interested. Trump is planning on leaving another small town in Michigan holding the bag for his campaign security.

Getting ready: Former president Donald Trump is scheduled to visit the MBS International Airport in Tittabawassee Township on Wednesday, May 1, for his 2024 presidential campaign rally. Officials are preparing for a crowd of nearly 10,000 attendees, nearly doubling Freeland's population. Here's a look at how the small town plans to manage the event.

https://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw-bay-city/2024/04/trump-force-one-inbound-how-a-small-mid-michigan-town-prepares-for-a-bigly-rally.html

Is 10k of a crowed all that much?

I guess that given the airport is out in a sugarbeet field managing parking of maybe 4000 cars & trucks and traffic management is the biggest issue.



Saginaw, Bay City & Midland are the big population centers. People from Midland will either come south on 47 or go east on US 10 to Garfield, people from Saginaw will either come north on 47 or west on Freeland Road, and people from Bay City will come south on 84 & west of Freeland Road or West on US 10 to Garfield. Some fanboys from Flint & further south will shoot up I 75.

It probably will not be much more disruptive than an fatal accident on I 75 on a Sunday afternoon in the summer.

Trapper Gus wrote:

Jake from State Farm wrote:Just in case anyone is interested. Trump is planning on leaving another small town in Michigan holding the bag for his campaign security.

Getting ready: Former president Donald Trump is scheduled to visit the MBS International Airport in Tittabawassee Township on Wednesday, May 1, for his 2024 presidential campaign rally. Officials are preparing for a crowd of nearly 10,000 attendees, nearly doubling Freeland's population. Here's a look at how the small town plans to manage the event.

https://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw-bay-city/2024/04/trump-force-one-inbound-how-a-small-mid-michigan-town-prepares-for-a-bigly-rally.html

Is 10k of a crowed all that much?

I guess that given the airport is out in a sugarbeet field managing parking of maybe 4000 cars & trucks and traffic management is the biggest issue.



Saginaw, Bay City & Midland are the big population centers. People from Midland will either come south on 47 or go east on US 10 to Garfield, people from Saginaw will either come north on 47 or west on Freeland Road, and people from Bay City will come south on 84 & west of Freeland Road or West on US 10 to Garfield. Some fanboys from Flint & further south will shoot up I 75.

It probably will not be much more disruptive than an fatal accident on I 75 on a Sunday afternoon in the summer.

My childhood home is on this map!!!

The airport is tiny. Like 4 flights a day to Detroit or Chicago....

Sister in Law who lives in Auburn (10 min north) is a total Dem. She signed up for 2 tickets and got them. She's bringing her high school age son for shits and giggles. He was concerned they would get beat up. I told him they don't know what you are actually thinking, just refrain from yelling at him in rage....

AvgMSUJoe wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:

https://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw-bay-city/2024/04/trump-force-one-inbound-how-a-small-mid-michigan-town-prepares-for-a-bigly-rally.html

Is 10k of a crowed all that much?

I guess that given the airport is out in a sugarbeet field managing parking of maybe 4000 cars & trucks and traffic management is the biggest issue.



Saginaw, Bay City & Midland are the big population centers. People from Midland will either come south on 47 or go east on US 10 to Garfield, people from Saginaw will either come north on 47 or west on Freeland Road, and people from Bay City will come south on 84 & west of Freeland Road or West on US 10 to Garfield. Some fanboys from Flint & further south will shoot up I 75.

It probably will not be much more disruptive than an fatal accident on I 75 on a Sunday afternoon in the summer.

My childhood home is on this map!!!

The airport is tiny. Like 4 flights a day to Detroit or Chicago....

Sister in Law who lives in Auburn (10 min north) is a total Dem. She signed up for 2 tickets and got them. She's bringing her high school age son for shits and giggles. He was concerned they would get beat up. I told him they don't know what you are actually thinking, just refrain from yelling at him in rage....

There aren’t too many presidents in my lifetime, , Who I wouldn’t go to see if I was fairly close and it was at a small venue like that. Regardless of Party he’s an historical Figure and it’s a good deal going to see him. She’s doing the right thing.

, However, might be the only president that I personally would pass. I completely understand her, taking her son. He was a president, it is history, and he’ll be able to say he saw the president

AvgMSUJoe wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:

https://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw-bay-city/2024/04/trump-force-one-inbound-how-a-small-mid-michigan-town-prepares-for-a-bigly-rally.html

Is 10k of a crowed all that much?

I guess that given the airport is out in a sugarbeet field managing parking of maybe 4000 cars & trucks and traffic management is the biggest issue.



Saginaw, Bay City & Midland are the big population centers. People from Midland will either come south on 47 or go east on US 10 to Garfield, people from Saginaw will either come north on 47 or west on Freeland Road, and people from Bay City will come south on 84 & west of Freeland Road or West on US 10 to Garfield. Some fanboys from Flint & further south will shoot up I 75.

It probably will not be much more disruptive than an fatal accident on I 75 on a Sunday afternoon in the summer.

My childhood home is on this map!!!

The airport is tiny. Like 4 flights a day to Detroit or Chicago....

Sister in Law who lives in Auburn (10 min north) is a total Dem. She signed up for 2 tickets and got them. She's bringing her high school age son for shits and giggles. He was concerned they would get beat up. I told him they don't know what you are actually thinking, just refrain from yelling at him in rage....

I would think that most people who live in the area would consider it rude to get in fights over politics. All the fights I saw growing up were over more personal interests.

Id venture to guess the vast majority will travel in... The thumb, north of Midland. (But south of "up north")

Although just with name recognition Mike Rogers will be a strong candidate for the Michigan US Seante seat, the fact that he hasn't been a Michigan resident for years and is still registered to vote in Florida should give some pause.

https://michiganadvance.com/2024/05/01/a-new-house-is-being-built-for-mr-rogers-in-his-not-yet-neighborhood/

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Have to love the MSM reporting "thousands. I tell you thousands" of people showed up.

At Tri-city more than 20 is a huge crowd.

AvgMSUJoe wrote:Id venture to guess the vast majority will travel in... The thumb, north of Midland. (But south of "up north")

So the news or freep interviewed a guy that drove in from Clare... Does he live up north?

I guess it depends on if his double wide is parked north or south of Jay's...

https://apnews.com/article/michigan-senate-slotkin-rogers-election-stabenow-d724624cf34ee7ff64845e34cd4a2d79

Reading this team Blue is in trouble

House Leadership’s Undying Support for Henry Cuellar Now Threatens Democratic Majority

Some times I wonder if kids have any idea what the difference between being in the majority in Congress means.

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Robert J Sakimano wrote:granted, it's a county commissioner seat..

however, sounds like even in Ottawa County, decent folks are getting tired of the republican/libertarian hate, extremism and assault on traditional American values.

HOLLAND TOWNSHIP, Mich. (WOOD) — Voters in Holland and Park townships have voted to recall Ottawa County Commissioner Lucy Ebel.

Ebel was one of several conservative commissioners backed by the conservative political action committee Ottawa Impact. She garnered about 40% of the vote, according to unofficial results.

the incumbent lost to the Democrat by 20 points.

in Ottawa County.

Caution: Mainstream Media Link

"Train wreak" might describe how their time in office has been, or might be over the top.

AFAIR they have had the Heath Care Officer affair, where they almost paid 4 million dollars to remove the HCO, and spent who knows what in legal fees; the County Supervisor affair, where the hired a Trumpy and now are trying to fire him; and the VA commission affair, where they shut down a volunteer VA help office they paid the operating costs of a small amount and then hired a friend of the leader of their group for a large salary as a replacement.

https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-government/2024-michigan-elections-gop-pushes-mail-voting-once-panned-trump

Republicans are still conflicted regarding absentee voting, but some are suggesting people should use it.

Sounds like an excellent political ad...

But it probably wont be.
(Fucking Dems.)

Seems to me this will boil down to who will lose more votes. I don’t see much “flipping” going on. Maybe 2020 was the plateau. Obviously Biden won by like 7 million in the popular vote but his margins in swing states were pretty narrow. He’s defiantly losing some minority and younger demographic in my opinion. I’d hate to be courting someone in their 20’s trying to buy a house right now…. Trump has some red flags as it looks like an out of the race Haley is still pulling 20% in republican primaries. But we all know she’ll be bought and encourage her supporters to vote for Trump.

This is odd, an issue that really matters as a campaign issue. Democratics saying the will modify in a major way the filibuster rule if they have a Senate majority.

The Republicans are saying the will not, which if Trump wins will melt like butter on a hot griddle the first time the Democratics use it block something Trump wants.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna152484

OK... The Michigan Rs signatures are potentially invalid. Wouldn't you think they wouldn't have slacked on that with the hubub over James Craig?

"patterns that indicate the presence of potential forgery andother fraudulent signature gathering tactics."