Nascar driver Tony Stewart reportedly ran over another driver on purpose

Chitown_Badger wrote:

Spot on in my opinion. First part made was pretty funny, but so true. Second part makes total sense, and the acceleration, back end sliding out, no need for him to be that close but still being there all support it.

That being said, if the case could be made that that is in fact what happened, what kind of charge would that be?

. Wards body is what caused the back end to slide out. Watch it closely.

By-Tor wrote:
.  Wards body is what caused the back end to slide out.   Watch it closely.  

I disagree. The body being hit and thrown by the wheel would have created drag on that side, and if anything, Stewart's car would have veered the OTHER way. Think about what happens when cars have blowouts. A blowout on the right rear would cause the car to pull right (meaning back goes left, and front goes right).

Chitown_Badger wrote:

I disagree. The body being hit and thrown by the wheel would have created drag on that side, and if anything, Stewart's car would have veered the OTHER way. Think about what happens when cars have blowouts. A blowout on the right rear would cause the car to pull right (meaning back goes left, and front goes right).

Has Marisa Tomei been called in as an expert witness?

Turtleneck wrote:


Has Marisa Tomei been called in as an expert witness?

Thank you, Ms. Vito!

tTito wrote:

Thank you, Ms. Vito!

you have been a lovely.. lovely.. witness.

SpartanMikey wrote:
He's done the same thing himself multiple times, you mean to tell me he didn't see the guy?

It took a while and some prodding but at least we finally got to the point of your post(s) :)

Wally Fairway wrote:

I seriously think that Tony Stewart may have thought he was going to kick up some dirt at the kid; there is no way he meant to hit him - but either the kid was closer than Tony thought or the back end broke loose earlier than he thought. Tony is pretty much a red ass, and he wasn't going to let some punk ass kid get of his car and go all red ass on him.
My contention will never be able to be proven.

Definitely possible. Unfortunately there is not enough evidence to tell either way. But there seems to be a contingent of people that are dead set on this "obviously" being how it went down and can't fathom there being any other explanation.

A couple years ago Tony Stewart said that he should have ran over another driver. He has a bad temper, and he drives cars very fast. He likes to intimidate people using his car as a means to do so (like putting people into the wall, spinning them out, etc.).

Unless TS comes out and admits some type of culpability, we'll never know. But I wouldn't put it past him, and as someone who isn't a race fan, he's the only driver I know to have the reputation that he does (though I'm sure there are others).

Nordic wrote:

Definitely possible.  Unfortunately there is not enough evidence to tell either way. But there seems to be a contingent of people that are dead set on this "obviously" being how it went down and can't fathom there being any other explanation.

On the Tony Stewart fan scale, would you rate yourself as a big Tony Stewart fan, or a huge Tony Stewart fan?

Is it fair to say if the other drivers think he is at fault some form of NASCAR street justice will be applied?

Blanch32 wrote:Is it fair to say if the other drivers think he is at fault some form of NASCAR street justice will be applied?

Pointing and yelling at each other as if you would beat each others ass if there weren't 150 guys around you holding you back???? Prolly.

Blanch32 wrote:Is it fair to say if the other drivers think he is at fault some form of NASCAR street justice will be applied?

Yes, I think most of the other drivers will mount .50 calibers on their cars like in Rat Patrol and hose him.

Blanch32 wrote:Is it fair to say if the other drivers think he is at fault some form of NASCAR street justice will be applied?

It is fair for you to say that.

NigelUno wrote:

It is fair for you to say that.

Pls tell me this was real weak attempt at a generalized joke...m

Blanch32 wrote:

Pls tell me this was  real weak attempt at a generalized joke...m

I'm not going to explain the jokes to you...m

Chitown_Badger wrote:

On the Tony Stewart fan scale, would you rate yourself as a big Tony Stewart fan, or a huge Tony Stewart fan?

Wearing a #20 Home Depot flame retardant race suit as I type. Kurt Busch fan?

Nordic wrote:

Wearing a #20 Home Depot flame retardant race suit as I type.  Kurt Busch fan?

I do enjoy a Busch Light when drinking really cheap beer, so, maybe?

LooseGoose wrote:

Yes, I think most of the other drivers will mount .50 calibers on their cars like in Rat Patrol and hose him.

Shit, I'd watch that.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:I'm certainly not a NASCAR driver.. but I would think that when you exit your car and start walking across the racetrack that there is an implied assumption of the risk involved..

Thank God you're a lawyer, then.

Chitown_Badger wrote:

I do enjoy a Busch Light when drinking really cheap beer, so, maybe?

Okay, we're at least talking casual fans here. Not "Camping out at Daytona, wearing Tony Stewart's colors because he's a GOD" fans, but at least casual fans. Kudos.

Chitown_Badger wrote:

The guy in front of stewart was far enough ahead of him that you can't convince me Stewart couldn't have avoided him. That other car also had no issues driving around him and didn't need to gas it for any reason.

I still believe stewart was going to send a message to the kid and he fucked up and killed him. Or you can suggest that those other drivers are somehow better than Stewart, which I'm not believing either.

this.  As someone who has actually driven a Nascar I can tell you a little bit about how they are set up.  The cars are set up for the long left hand turns.  If you release the steering wheel in a straightway, the car will veer violently left and off the track.  You literally have to hold on tight in the straights to keep the car from veering left. They set them up like that so you can maintain speed in the left turns you are making.  Now, those dirt carts are all making left turns and they are most likely set up the same way.  Those carts slide around the left turns they are making so the front end steering is set up so that when you accelerate the rear tires will spin to the right and the front end will dig into the left of the race track.  So, when Tony hit the gas to spin the wheels, the car naturally took a right hand turn.  i think Tony was trying to spin the tires to brush the kid off and he screwed up.  Both are at fault.  If my hunch is correct about the manner in which those carts are set up, tony could get hit will a large personal injury verdict.  The experts will let us know down the road.  My hunch though is the car was set up for those left turns and Tony knew what he was doing.

Tanfan! wrote:

this.  As someone who has actually driven a Nascar I can tell you a little bit about how they are set up.  The cars are set up for the long left hand turns.  If you release the steering wheel in a straightway, the car will veer violently left and off the track.  You literally have to hold on tight in the straights to keep the car from veering left. They set them up like that so you can maintain speed in the left turns you are making.  Now, those dirt carts are all making left turns and they are most likely set up the same way.  Those carts slide around the left turns they are making so the front end steering is set up so that when you accelerate the rear tires will spin to the right and the front end will dig into the left of the race track.  So, when Tony hit the gas to spin the wheels, the car naturally took a right hand turn.  i think Tony was trying to spin the tires to brush the kid off and he screwed up.  Both are at fault.  If my hunch is correct about the manner in which those carts are set up, tony could get hit will a large personal injury verdict.  The experts will let us know down the road.  My hunch though is the car was set up for those left turns and Tony knew what he was doing.

"As somebody who has actually driven a Nascar..."   

"Dirt carts"   

Dafuq is a Nascar? You don't know shit again  

Gomer wrote:
"As somebody who has actually driven a Nascar..."   

"Dirt carts"   

Dafuq is a Nascar? You don't know shit again  

I liked that story.

Gomer wrote:
"As somebody who has actually driven a Nascar..."   

"Dirt carts"   

Dafuq is a Nascar? You don't know shit again  

I've driven at the Disney and Daytona tracks. You can drive a nascar for a fee. It's a blast. You should try it. They teach you all about how the cars are set up. You go through training and then you get to drive the car. Ps. I hate you too  

Tanfan! wrote:

I've driven at the Disney and Daytona tracks. You can drive a nascar for a fee. It's a blast. You should try it. They teach you all about how the cars are set up. You go through training and then you get to drive the car. Ps. I hate you too  

Disney track. Got it. 

gHost Spartan wrote:I feel bad for Tony Stewart. Guy may never race again because some idiot punk kid decided to challenge Stewart in order to defend his turf. What an idiot.

Never race again? I bet he races this weekend.

Tanfan! wrote:

I've driven at the Disney and Daytona tracks. You can drive a nascar for a fee. It's a blast. You should try it. They teach you all about how the cars are set up. You go through training and then you get to drive the car. Ps. I hate you too  

Hey that's cool - I've played PGA tour courses, and have talked to PGA players.....that in no way makes me think I am a pro golfer.

But I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night & I think Stewart was sending a message to the kid. I don't think he meant to hit him, the kid should have never gotten out of his car...but just like some asshole who tries to splash a people by going through a puddle and hits them by accident, I really think that Stewart has partial blame (the other driver seemed able to miss Ward).
I also think that there is no way to prove Stewarts intention, and he will not have charges pressed and that if civil action is brought Stewart will lawyer up with the best money can buy (Tanner are you available)

Tanfan! wrote:

this.  As someone who has actually driven a Nascar I can tell you a little bit about how they are set up.  The cars are set up for the long left hand turns.  If you release the steering wheel in a straightway, the car will veer violently left and off the track.  You literally have to hold on tight in the straights to keep the car from veering left. They set them up like that so you can maintain speed in the left turns you are making.  Now, those dirt carts are all making left turns and they are most likely set up the same way.  Those carts slide around the left turns they are making so the front end steering is set up so that when you accelerate the rear tires will spin to the right and the front end will dig into the left of the race track.  So, when Tony hit the gas to spin the wheels, the car naturally took a right hand turn.  i think Tony was trying to spin the tires to brush the kid off and he screwed up.  Both are at fault.  If my hunch is correct about the manner in which those carts are set up, tony could get hit will a large personal injury verdict.  The experts will let us know down the road.  My hunch though is the car was set up for those left turns and Tony knew what he was doing.

      

Gomer wrote:
Disney track. Got it. 

lol

Not to side track this conversation (  ), but how the **** does Disney get away with having the same rides for the last 40 years? I took my kids on the same crap my old man did 30 years ago.

Tanfan! wrote:

I've driven at the Disney and Daytona tracks. You can drive a nascar for a fee. It's a blast. You should try it. They teach you all about how the cars are set up. You go through training and then you get to drive the car. Ps. I hate you too  

Did you drive faster than gHost?

[quote="Wally Fairway"]

2nd Deg Murder and Negligent Homicide don't require intent.

SpartanInNH wrote:

Okay, we're at least talking casual fans here.  Not "Camping out at Daytona, wearing Tony Stewart's colors because he's a GOD" fans, but at least casual fans.  Kudos.  

I'll watch it if nothing else is on. Will usually "root" for Matt Kenseth simply because he's from the 'Scons, but that's it.

I feel bad for Tony Stewart. Guy may never race again because some idiot punk kid decided to challenge Stewart in order to defend his turf. What an idiot.

You feel bad for someone that killed someone else, but not bad for someone who killed themselves?

Tanfan! wrote:

this.  As someone who has actually driven a Nascar I can tell you a little bit about how they are set up.  The cars are set up for the long left hand turns.  If you release the steering wheel in a straightway, the car will veer violently left and off the track.  You literally have to hold on tight in the straights to keep the car from veering left. They set them up like that so you can maintain speed in the left turns you are making.  Now, those dirt carts are all making left turns and they are most likely set up the same way.  Those carts slide around the left turns they are making so the front end steering is set up so that when you accelerate the rear tires will spin to the right and the front end will dig into the left of the race track.  So, when Tony hit the gas to spin the wheels, the car naturally took a right hand turn.  i think Tony was trying to spin the tires to brush the kid off and he screwed up.  Both are at fault.  If my hunch is correct about the manner in which those carts are set up, tony could get hit will a large personal injury verdict.  The experts will let us know down the road.  My hunch though is the car was set up for those left turns and Tony knew what he was doing.

I don't think I've ever seen such a serious, detailed post like this from you before. Good stuff and information.

Kid shouldn't have been on the track. Survival of the fittest. I'm happy he died. Social Darwinism at its finest.

Tanfan! wrote:

this.  As someone who has actually driven a Nascar I can tell you a little bit about how they are set up.  The cars are set up for the long left hand turns.  If you release the steering wheel in a straightway, the car will veer violently left and off the track.  You literally have to hold on tight in the straights to keep the car from veering left. They set them up like that so you can maintain speed in the left turns you are making.  Now, those dirt carts are all making left turns and they are most likely set up the same way.  Those carts slide around the left turns they are making so the front end steering is set up so that when you accelerate the rear tires will spin to the right and the front end will dig into the left of the race track.  So, when Tony hit the gas to spin the wheels, the car naturally took a right hand turn.  i think Tony was trying to spin the tires to brush the kid off and he screwed up.  Both are at fault.  If my hunch is correct about the manner in which those carts are set up, tony could get hit will a large personal injury verdict.  The experts will let us know down the road.  My hunch though is the car was set up for those left turns and Tony knew what he was doing.

Tanner, did you just have a stroke?

Bill Cain wrote:Kid shouldn't have been on the track. Survival of the fittest. I'm happy he died. Social Darwinism at its finest.

It's not really survival of the fittest, since the guy got hit by a car.

And secondly, the term "social darwinism" doesn't apply since they were both white guys. Other than that, awesome post.

Chitown_Badger wrote:

It's not really survival of the fittest, since the guy got hit by a car.

And secondly, the term "social darwinism" doesn't apply since they were both white guys. Other than that, awesome post.

Why does it matter what their skin color was? Why are you so racist?

Bill Cain wrote: I'm happy he died.

really? like, did you do a little happy dance?

Bill Cain wrote:

Why does it matter what their skin color was? Why are you so racist?

You should google social darwinism.