Watching Trump's Second Term

It's off to a rocky start...

https://apnews.com/article/trump-transition-planning-ca3a6be50d147b04b6498184e5599b1e

Trapper Gus wrote:It's off to a rocky start...

https://apnews.com/article/trump-transition-planning-ca3a6be50d147b04b6498184e5599b1e

I wouldn't count on it. Its been only a few days and he already has a plan, project 2025

sεяεηιτλ wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:It's off to a rocky start...

https://apnews.com/article/trump-transition-planning-ca3a6be50d147b04b6498184e5599b1e

I wouldn't count on it. Its been only a few days and he already has a plan, project 2025

The AP article is about the nuts and bolts of bringing the project 2025 people into the White House before January 2025, so they have access to the door keys, existing structures within the executive branch and their required security clearances to be able to read the memos telling people what to do.

That is all controlled by a law Congress passed back after the 2000 election which was updated in 2022.

Without an execution of the transition process the Trump staff will spend a couple of months blind, deaf & dumb as far as the rest of the civil service in the executive branch is concerned.

Trump has been President elect for almost a week now.

How come prices are still so high?

https://apnews.com/article/economy-trump-inflation-prices-election-tariffs-immigrants-e791d15158195a8a15a71ee43c77d749

Trapper Gus wrote:Trump has been President elect for almost a week now.

How come prices are still so high?

https://apnews.com/article/economy-trump-inflation-prices-election-tariffs-immigrants-e791d15158195a8a15a71ee43c77d749

Once again Donnie the Felon is going to benefit from a good economy, eff it up, and in four years leave it the Dems to try and fix it and get all the blame.

Jake from State Farm wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:Trump has been President elect for almost a week now.

How come prices are still so high?

https://apnews.com/article/economy-trump-inflation-prices-election-tariffs-immigrants-e791d15158195a8a15a71ee43c77d749

Once again Donnie the Felon is going to benefit from a good economy, eff it up, and in four years leave it the Dems to try and fix it and get all the blame.

Maybe the evil plan is to create a recession which will drive prices down.

SIAP, but did you guys see that Susie Wiles' dad was Pat Summerall?

Interesting, because judging by her boss, I would have guessed she was more likely to be Jimmy The Greek's daughter.

Between that and Phyllis George's daughter being an anchor on CNN, it's quite the NFL Today connection in politics now. What are Brent Musberger's and Irv Cross's kids up to? Need to get them involved somewhere.

Trapper Gus wrote:Trump has been President elect for almost a week now.

How come prices are still so high?

https://apnews.com/article/economy-trump-inflation-prices-election-tariffs-immigrants-e791d15158195a8a15a71ee43c77d749

The amount of people that think gas is going under 1.50 and groceries will cost half as much by February is mind numbing

just remember.. from one of our very republican/libertarians:

That being said, the Democrat's are responsible for this mess we are heading toward. In no particular order.

aualum06 wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:Trump has been President elect for almost a week now.

How come prices are still so high?

https://apnews.com/article/economy-trump-inflation-prices-election-tariffs-immigrants-e791d15158195a8a15a71ee43c77d749

The amount of people that think gas is going under 1.50 and groceries will cost half as much by February is mind numbing

Gas has been dropping for a while due to demand for oil dropping in China (due to part to China shifting is vehicle fleets to electric (for cars) and natural gas for trucks).  OPEC Plus decided to continue at their lower output to try to push prices up and it did cause a bump in oil prices on Friday, but they are spitting into the wind.

Trapper Gus wrote:

aualum06 wrote:

The amount of people that think gas is going under 1.50 and groceries will cost half as much by February is mind numbing

Gas has been dropping for a while due to demand for oil dropping in China (due to part to China shifting is vehicle fleets to electric (for cars) and natural gas for trucks).  OPEC Plus decided to continue at their lower output to try to push prices up and it did cause a bump in oil prices on Friday, but they are spitting into the wind.

No no don't you understand it's the president controlling the prices

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And again, why did we let this issue become an anchor on our necks.

I’m as liberal as they come. I’m very uneasy about both surgeries and sports. And it involves what, 1% of our populace yet was an issue with over 65% of voters.

Why is this our anchor?

DWags wrote:

aualum06 wrote:[tw]1855134542354428034?t=AmFbahUf1nZd2YN9p5hYiA&s=19[/tw]

And again, why did we let this issue become an anchor on our necks.

I’m as liberal as they come. I’m very uneasy about both surgeries and sports. And it involves what, 1% of our populace yet was an issue with over 65% of voters.

Why is this our anchor?

I don’t think we can prevent that because there will always be a Democrat somewhere who takes a position that Republicans can inflate and attach to the entire party.

Democrats need to do the same. Republicans blocked a contraception bill and we barely heard anything about it. Why weren’t there commercials about the Republican War on Sex? Not just gay sex like in the past, but all sex. Those young meathead males might think twice about voting Republican if Democrats were to hang a “War on Sex” tag on Republicans.

Pervis Muldoon wrote:

DWags wrote:



And again, why did we let this issue become an anchor on our necks.

I’m as liberal as they come. I’m very uneasy about both surgeries and sports. And it involves what, 1% of our populace yet was an issue with over 65% of voters.

Why is this our anchor?

I don’t think we can prevent that because there will always be a Democrat somewhere who takes a position that Republicans can inflate and attach to the entire party.

Democrats need to do the same. Republicans blocked a contraception bill and we barely heard anything about it. Why weren’t there commercials about the Republican War on Sex? Not just gay sex like in the past, but all sex. Those young meathead males might think twice about voting Republican if Democrats were to hang a “War on Sex” tag on Republicans.

while I agree with what you're saying, it's fair to say now that if republican/libertarian males want sex, they can just hold the woman down and take what they want.

look at their christian hero.. in their minds, he gets away with it. Why shouldn't they be able to?

Pervis Muldoon wrote:

DWags wrote:

aualum06 wrote:[tw]1855134542354428034?t=AmFbahUf1nZd2YN9p5hYiA&s=19[/tw]

And again, why did we let this issue become an anchor on our necks.

I’m as liberal as they come. I’m very uneasy about both surgeries and sports. And it involves what, 1% of our populace yet was an issue with over 65% of voters.

Why is this our anchor?

I don’t think we can prevent that because there will always be a Democrat somewhere who takes a position that Republicans can inflate and attach to the entire party.

Democrats need to do the same. Republicans blocked a contraception bill and we barely heard anything about it. Why weren’t there commercials about the Republican War on Sex? Not just gay sex like in the past, but all sex. Those young meathead males might think twice about voting Republican if Democrats were to hang a “War on Sex” tag on Republicans.

Uh...they are the party of Jewish space lasers and government weather control among other ridiculous conspiracy theories. Should be easily exploitable for a competent opposition. But competent Democrats is an oxymoron.

DWags wrote:

And again, why did we let this issue become an anchor on our necks.

I’m as liberal as they come. I’m very uneasy about both surgeries and sports. And it involves what, 1% of our populace yet was an issue with over 65% of voters.

Why is this our anchor?

It is the anchor because:
a) abortion rights used to be the anchor of division but....
b) because it is so divisive, nobody cares if it is .01% or 1% it is an issue to stand behind

nobody campaigns on things like the national debt, balancing the budget, adjusting Social Security, health care, Immigration (not by Presidential decree, but by Congress), Education, the Environment .... I could go on and on

but nope we focus on a border wall, sex change, womens reproductive rights, and name calling aka facist/nazi vs marxist/communist. Our system as designed is awesome; our system in it's current structure sucks. And political campaigns are little more that both candidates saying "You Suck" to the other side.

It's only an "anchor" if you let it be one. More fun facts:

1. The Kentucky legislature passed an anti trans bill. No shock there. It's Kentucky.

2. The Kentucky governor is a Democrat. Whoa. Surely that won't last.

3. Said governor vetoes cruel anti trans bill. Political suicide you'd think.

4. Kentucky governor gets reelected.

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If a young meathead male says “her body my choice” to my daughter that is a direct threat of rape and I can whoop his ass in defense of her. Change my mind.

Motown Spartan wrote:If a young meathead male says “her body my choice” to my daughter that is a direct threat of rape and I can whoop his ass in defense of her. Change my mind.

That will be an interesting case next year. Rape will be legal but your daughter will be your property - so if he doesn’t ask your permission, you’ll probably be permitted to give the meathead ten lashes.

Heat Miser wrote:

Pervis Muldoon wrote:

I don’t think we can prevent that because there will always be a Democrat somewhere who takes a position that Republicans can inflate and attach to the entire party.

Democrats need to do the same. Republicans blocked a contraception bill and we barely heard anything about it. Why weren’t there commercials about the Republican War on Sex? Not just gay sex like in the past, but all sex. Those young meathead males might think twice about voting Republican if Democrats were to hang a “War on Sex” tag on Republicans.

Uh...they are the party of Jewish space lasers and government weather control among other ridiculous conspiracy theories. Should be easily exploitable for a competent opposition. But competent Democrats is an oxymoron.

Yeah, the conspiracy theories are nuts to you and me, but they don’t seem to hurt the Republicans. Trump said Haitians are eating people’s dogs and cats in the biggest TV event of the campaign season, and that line was played over and over.

Apparently pointing out the other side’s crazy claims isn’t what moves the needle. It looks like politicians can just keep saying crazy shit until something sticks without being penalized for the crazy shit that doesn’t stick. So if we start making crazy claims about Republicans maybe we will find a few that stick.

Pervis Muldoon wrote:

Heat Miser wrote:

Pervis Muldoon wrote:

I don’t think we can prevent that because there will always be a Democrat somewhere who takes a position that Republicans can inflate and attach to the entire party.

Democrats need to do the same. Republicans blocked a contraception bill and we barely heard anything about it. Why weren’t there commercials about the Republican War on Sex? Not just gay sex like in the past, but all sex. Those young meathead males might think twice about voting Republican if Democrats were to hang a “War on Sex” tag on Republicans.

Uh...they are the party of Jewish space lasers and government weather control among other ridiculous conspiracy theories. Should be easily exploitable for a competent opposition. But competent Democrats is an oxymoron.

Yeah, the conspiracy theories are nuts to you and me, but they don’t seem to hurt the Republicans. Trump said Haitians are eating people’s dogs and cats in the biggest TV event of the campaign season, and that line was played over and over.

Apparently pointing out the other side’s crazy claims isn’t what moves the needle. It looks like politicians can just keep saying crazy shit until something sticks without being penalized for the crazy shit that doesn’t stick. So if we start making crazy claims about Republicans maybe we will find a few that stick.

"Weird" was sticking. So of course the Dems stopped using it.

Motown Spartan wrote:If a young meathead male says “her body my choice” to my daughter that is a direct threat of rape and I can whoop his ass in defense of her. Change my mind.

No, you’re good. Do you have guns?

DWags wrote:

Motown Spartan wrote:If a young meathead male says “her body my choice” to my daughter that is a direct threat of rape and I can whoop his ass in defense of her. Change my mind.

No, you’re good. Do you have guns?

I'm seeing a stand your ground case here.

Heat Miser wrote:

Pervis Muldoon wrote:

Yeah, the conspiracy theories are nuts to you and me, but they don’t seem to hurt the Republicans. Trump said Haitians are eating people’s dogs and cats in the biggest TV event of the campaign season, and that line was played over and over.

Apparently pointing out the other side’s crazy claims isn’t what moves the needle. It looks like politicians can just keep saying crazy shit until something sticks without being penalized for the crazy shit that doesn’t stick. So if we start making crazy claims about Republicans maybe we will find a few that stick.

"Weird" was sticking. So of course the Dems stopped using it.

Kamala used 3 or 4 different strategies in 100’days. If she’d have had 2 years, she could have refined the campaign to a coherent, effective message. But 100 days was not enough time. Thanks Pudding Brains!

TravelinMan wrote:

Heat Miser wrote:

"Weird" was sticking. So of course the Dems stopped using it.

Kamala used 3 or 4 different strategies in 100’days. If she’d have had 2 years, she could have refined the campaign to a coherent, effective message. But 100 days was not enough time. Thanks Pudding Brains!

The more I think about it, the more it comes down to this. Biden fucked us.

Cameron wrote:

TravelinMan wrote:

Heat Miser wrote:

"Weird" was sticking. So of course the Dems stopped using it.

Kamala used 3 or 4 different strategies in 100’days. If she’d have had 2 years, she could have refined the campaign to a coherent, effective message. But 100 days was not enough time. Thanks Pudding Brains!

The more I think about it, the more it comes down to this. Biden fucked us.

Yes, 2 years of kissing and hugging Liz Cheney would've definitely helped.

Cameron wrote:

TravelinMan wrote:

Kamala used 3 or 4 different strategies in 100’days. If she’d have had 2 years, she could have refined the campaign to a coherent, effective message. But 100 days was not enough time. Thanks Pudding Brains!

The more I think about it, the more it comes down to this. Biden fucked us.

Not his fault. The Democratic Party held primaries. They didn’t anoint Joe. But nobody other than some unknown guy ran against him. He assumed the Democrats wanted him.

PennSpartan wrote:

Cameron wrote:

The more I think about it, the more it comes down to this. Biden fucked us.

Not his fault. The Democratic Party held primaries. They didn’t anoint Joe. But nobody other than some unknown guy ran against him. He assumed the Democrats wanted him.

The Democrats did want him. And then they wanted Kamala. The Democrats even voted for Kamala. What the Democrats failed to do was convince non-Democrats to vote for Kamala.

PennSpartan wrote:

Cameron wrote:

The more I think about it, the more it comes down to this. Biden fucked us.

Not his fault. The Democratic Party held primaries. They didn’t anoint Joe. But nobody other than some unknown guy ran against him. He assumed the Democrats wanted him.

He should never have been running in the first place! After 2022 he should have announced he was not seeking reelection and let the primary play out. Those who dealt with Uncle Joe on a daily basis - and I’d say Jill and Hunter at least - should have realized his brains were turning to pudding and told him to step aside.

Heat Miser wrote:

Cameron wrote:

The more I think about it, the more it comes down to this. Biden fucked us.

Yes, 2 years of kissing and hugging Liz Cheney would've definitely helped.

With 2 years, I'd like to think they'd have had time to find a better candidate than Kamala, or at least have the focus group data showing how unpopular campaigning with Cheneys was.

PennSpartan wrote:

Cameron wrote:

The more I think about it, the more it comes down to this. Biden fucked us.

Not his fault. The Democratic Party held primaries. They didn’t anoint Joe. But nobody other than some unknown guy ran against him. He assumed the Democrats wanted him.

For sure his fault. Nobody wants to run against an incumbent, so it is *ahem* incumbent upon the incumbent to recognize when they are a total loser and step aside. That did not happen on a reasonable timeline.

Cameron wrote:

PennSpartan wrote:
Not his fault. The Democratic Party held primaries. They didn’t anoint Joe. But nobody other than some unknown guy ran against him. He assumed the Democrats wanted him.

For sure his fault. Nobody wants to run against an incumbent, so it is *ahem* incumbent upon the incumbent to recognize when they are a total loser and step aside. That did not happen on a reasonable timeline.

He was voted in and gets to keep the job until he’s removed. Trump didn’t have any problem running against him. There’s nothing in the rules, written or unwritten that forbids Biden from running for a second term. Pelosi finally had to tell him not to run. Why didn’t she or someone tell him this a year earlier? Bernie, you reading this?

Yes he gets to. And he did so to the detriment of his party and the country. This isn’t complicated to figure out.

Reminder that republicans/libertarians voted for a convicted rapist, 34 time convicted felon, believed that scary brown people were eating cats and dogs and that drag queens are grooming their kids in 3rd grade art class...

So if y'all wanna argue about Democrats, that's cool.. but America is a woefully stupid country and even here at tSwill
republicans/libertarians are trying to recruit people into their knuckle-scraping mainstream media bubble.

But, yeah.. have at it.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:Reminder that republicans/libertarians voted for a convicted rapist, 34 time convicted felon, believed that scary brown people were eating cats and dogs and that drag queens are grooming their kids in 3rd grade art class...

So if y'all wanna argue about Democrats, that's cool.. but America is a woefully stupid country and even here at tSwill
republicans/libertarians are trying to recruit people into their knuckle-scraping mainstream media bubble.

But, yeah.. have at it.

Are you ever going to put this schtick away? You repeat the same shit every day. Try coming up with something intelligent for a change.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:Reminder that republicans/libertarians voted for a convicted rapist, 34 time convicted felon, believed that scary brown people were eating cats and dogs and that drag queens are grooming their kids in 3rd grade art class...

So if y'all wanna argue about Democrats, that's cool.. but America is a woefully stupid country and even here at tSwill
republicans/libertarians are trying to recruit people into their knuckle-scraping mainstream media bubble.

But, yeah.. have at it.

The Republican candidate was historically terrible, no one disputes that. The Democrats have lost to said historically terrible candidate twice now, and why and how that happened is what we are discussing. I know you have nothing constructive to add, but saying nothing is always an option. You and Mr. Blue Wave would do well to figure that out.

PennSpartan wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:Reminder that republicans/libertarians voted for a convicted rapist, 34 time convicted felon, believed that scary brown people were eating cats and dogs and that drag queens are grooming their kids in 3rd grade art class...

So if y'all wanna argue about Democrats, that's cool.. but America is a woefully stupid country and even here at tSwill
republicans/libertarians are trying to recruit people into their knuckle-scraping mainstream media bubble.

But, yeah.. have at it.

Are you ever going to put this schtick away? You repeat the same shit every day. Try coming up with something intelligent for a change.

sorry.. should've included this.

PennSpartan wrote: WARNING: This post contains opinion. If you are easily offended DO NOT READ.

Apologies. Hopefully you can find a safe space.

Cameron wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:Reminder that republicans/libertarians voted for a convicted rapist, 34 time convicted felon, believed that scary brown people were eating cats and dogs and that drag queens are grooming their kids in 3rd grade art class...

So if y'all wanna argue about Democrats, that's cool.. but America is a woefully stupid country and even here at tSwill
republicans/libertarians are trying to recruit people into their knuckle-scraping mainstream media bubble.

But, yeah.. have at it.

The Republican candidate was historically terrible, no one disputes that. The Democrats have lost to said historically terrible candidate twice now, and why and how that happened is what we are discussing. I know you have nothing constructive to add, but saying nothing is always an option. You and Mr. Blue Wave would do well to figure that out.

Mr. Blue Wave!

I like it, sounds like a cool rapper.

The short answer is Fox News and the Fox News following MSM, Bob & I agree on this.