Re: ATTN: GERONTES - THE POLLS ARE CLOSED - WAKE AND JAKE ARE NOW GERONTES, UNLESS SEEROCK CHANGED THE CHARTER OVERNIGHT

by **MiamiSpartan** 2015-04-13, 13:02

NigelUno wrote:
MiamiSpartan wrote:So we're being asked to vote just so a couple of posters can have a little logo under their name when they post?

You can vote no.

I would vote "I don't give a shit", if that were an option....except that I wouldn't give enough of a shit to do that.

Let the gears of this legislative body grind to a halt. It will keep Big Gerousiament from invading our lives.

by **Snake Plissken** 2015-04-13, 13:05

Turtleneck wrote:
Snake Plissken wrote:Yeah I get it...just not humorous

You're not exactly a barrel of laughs, pal.

Say what? You take that back.

by **NigelUno** 2015-04-13, 13:17

MiamiSpartan wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

You can vote no.
I would vote "I don't give a shit", if that were an option....except that I wouldn't give enough of a shit to do that.

Let the gears of this legislative body grind to a halt. It will keep Big Gerousiament from invading our lives.

Nothing is grinding to a halt. In fact, not voting actually gives more power to those already in control. ATTN: GERONTES - THE POLLS ARE CLOSED - WAKE AND JAKE ARE NOW GERONTES, UNLESS SEEROCK CHANGED THE CHARTER OVERNIGHT - Page 5 4198636888

ATTN: GERONTES - THE POLLS ARE CLOSED - WAKE AND JAKE ARE NOW GERONTES, UNLESS SEEROCK CHANGED THE CHARTER OVERNIGHT - Page 5 4198636888

by **MiamiSpartan** 2015-04-13, 13:32

NigelUno wrote:
MiamiSpartan wrote:
I would vote "I don't give a shit", if that were an option....except that I wouldn't give enough of a shit to do that.

Let the gears of this legislative body grind to a halt. It will keep Big Gerousiament from invading our lives.

Nothing is grinding to a halt. In fact, not voting actually gives more power to those already in control.

How so? If people don't vote, then decisions on little logos don't get made!

by **Giant Moose** 2015-04-13, 13:34

MiamiSpartan wrote:How so? If people don't vote, then decisions on little logos don't get made!

Can I have your little logo?

by **Heat Miser** 2015-04-13, 13:39

Cutting the inactivity window to 90 days would remove another 10 Gerontes, which would just about get us to where we need to be to have votes that satisfy the voting requirements.

by **NigelUno** 2015-04-13, 13:40

MiamiSpartan wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

Nothing is grinding to a halt. In fact, not voting actually gives more power to those already in control.
How so? If people don't vote, then decisions on little logos don't get made!

Decisions on who gets logos are made by not voting.

Those with logos get more logo power if there are less posters with logos.

Not voting is actually impacting the process, just as much as voting. So, not giving a shit...is actually giving a shit. Mind blown.

by Townie 2015-04-13, 13:52

NigelUno wrote:
MiamiSpartan wrote:
How so? If people don't vote, then decisions on little logos don't get made!

Decisions on who gets logos are made by not voting.

Those with logos get more logo power if there are less posters with logos.

Not voting is actually impacting the process, just as much as voting. So, not giving a shit...is actually giving a shit. Mind blown.

If not voting was considered to be the same as voting no then you wouldn't need to cull.

by **NigelUno** 2015-04-13, 14:04

Townie wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

Decisions on who gets logos are made by not voting.

Those with logos get more logo power if there are less posters with logos.

Not voting is actually impacting the process, just as much as voting. So, not giving a shit...is actually giving a shit. Mind blown.

If not voting was considered to be the same as voting no then you wouldn't need to cull.

In this case, if you voted no now...you would actually be helping to get them elected. So, not voting impacts the process.

by **MiamiSpartan** 2015-04-13, 14:05

Heat Miser wrote:Cutting the inactivity window to 90 days would remove another 10 Gerontes, which would just about get us to where we need to be to have votes that satisfy the voting requirements.

The Geronte should vote on whether or not change the inactivity window, with at least 45 votes needed.

If you have to keep changing the rules to lower the bridge in order to get enough votes for a resolution to pass/fail, then just change the rules to eliminate the the minimum number of votes required in the first place.

by **MiamiSpartan** 2015-04-13, 14:09

NigelUno wrote:
Townie wrote:

If not voting was considered to be the same as voting no then you wouldn't need to cull.

In this case, if you voted no now...you would actually be helping to get them elected. So, not voting impacts the process.

You sound like Bush's people in 92 whining about Ross Perot.

by **NigelUno** 2015-04-13, 14:30

MiamiSpartan wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

In this case, if you voted no now...you would actually be helping to get them elected. So, not voting impacts the process.

You sound like Bush's people in 92 whining about Ross Perot.

You sound like a guy who doesn't give a shit, but that wants to keep talking...

by **Heat Miser** 2015-04-13, 14:32

MiamiSpartan wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:Cutting the inactivity window to 90 days would remove another 10 Gerontes, which would just about get us to where we need to be to have votes that satisfy the voting requirements.
The Geronte should vote on whether or not change the inactivity window, with at least 45 votes needed.

If you have to keep changing the rules to lower the bridge in order to get enough votes for a resolution to pass/fail, then just change the rules to eliminate the the minimum number of votes required in the first place.

Or just eliminate voting all together Twisted Evil

and revert to the oligarchy model used elsewhere. ATTN: GERONTES - THE POLLS ARE CLOSED - WAKE AND JAKE ARE NOW GERONTES, UNLESS SEEROCK CHANGED THE CHARTER OVERNIGHT - Page 5 2599972566

ATTN: GERONTES - THE POLLS ARE CLOSED - WAKE AND JAKE ARE NOW GERONTES, UNLESS SEEROCK CHANGED THE CHARTER OVERNIGHT - Page 5 2599972566

BTW...the one time where those little badges are actually "worth" something is when it comes to mod/ephor election. Don't like Nigel? Replace him. Oops, can't do that right now because we can't get enough votes because we have too many Gerontes that don't participate. Hell, Minnie's a mod & hasn't even visited tSwill (let alone posted) since 1/31/15. But we can't even replace her with someone willing to actually do the job due to the numbers issue.

by **NigelUno** 2015-04-13, 14:34

6 more votes needed to validate election.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2015-04-13, 14:36

Heat Miser wrote:
MiamiSpartan wrote:
The Geronte should vote on whether or not change the inactivity window, with at least 45 votes needed.

If you have to keep changing the rules to lower the bridge in order to get enough votes for a resolution to pass/fail, then just change the rules to eliminate the the minimum number of votes required in the first place.

Or just eliminate voting all together and revert to the oligarchy model used elsewhere.

BTW...the one time where those little badges are actually "worth" something is when it comes to mod/ephor election. Don't like Nigel? Replace him. Oops, can't do that right now because we can't get enough votes because we have too many Gerontes that don't participate. Hell, Minnie's a mod & hasn't even visited tSwill (let alone posted) since 1/31/15. But we can't even replace her with someone willing to actually do the job due to the numbers issue.

Minnie needs to go. She's watering down my mod status.

by Townie 2015-04-13, 14:38

NigelUno wrote:
Townie wrote:

If not voting was considered to be the same as voting no then you wouldn't need to cull.

In this case, if you voted no now...you would actually be helping to get them elected. So, not voting impacts the process.

I can't vote no. I was culled.

If you can just modify the time of inactivity to cull members on a whim, then why not restart the whole process now that the board has it's feet under it.

Can't you modify any rule until this board is 1 year old under the rules? Or is it 1 now?

by **Heat Miser** 2015-04-13, 14:43

Townie wrote:
NigelUno wrote:
Townie wrote:

If not voting was considered to be the same as voting no then you wouldn't need to cull.

In this case, if you voted no now...you would actually be helping to get them elected. So, not voting impacts the process.

I can't vote no. I was culled.

If you can just modify the time of inactivity to cull members on a whim, then why not restart the whole process now that the board has it's feet under it.

Can't you modify any rule until this board is 1 year old under the rules? Or is it 1 now?

It wasn't a whim. There was a lengthy discussion, which you obviously missed since it occurred during your 120+ day sabbatical. Also, I think you're right on the 1 year thing (2 more days). Ask SRC. Maybe he'll add you back. ATTN: GERONTES - THE POLLS ARE CLOSED - WAKE AND JAKE ARE NOW GERONTES, UNLESS SEEROCK CHANGED THE CHARTER OVERNIGHT - Page 5 2599972566

by **Giant Moose** 2015-04-13, 14:46

Heat Miser wrote:It wasn't a whim. There was a lengthy discussion, which you obviously missed since it occurred during your 120+ day sabbatical. Also, I think you're right on the 1 year thing (2 more days). Ask SRC. Maybe he'll add you back.

Townie and I should get upside down Geronte badges with no privileges for being inactive to warn others.

by **Turtleneck** 2015-04-13, 14:48

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:

Or just eliminate voting all together and revert to the oligarchy model used elsewhere.

BTW...the one time where those little badges are actually "worth" something is when it comes to mod/ephor election. Don't like Nigel? Replace him. Oops, can't do that right now because we can't get enough votes because we have too many Gerontes that don't participate. Hell, Minnie's a mod & hasn't even visited tSwill (let alone posted) since 1/31/15. But we can't even replace her with someone willing to actually do the job due to the numbers issue.

Minnie needs to go. She's watering down my mod status.

Are you ready to go to Rivals yet?

Can't mod. Can't recruit new posters.

by Townie 2015-04-13, 14:48

Heat Miser wrote:
Townie wrote:I can't vote no. I was culled.

If you can just modify the time of inactivity to cull members on a whim, then why not restart the whole process now that the board has it's feet under it.

Can't you modify any rule until this board is 1 year old under the rules? Or is it 1 now?

It wasn't a whim. There was a lengthy discussion, which you obviously missed since it occurred during your 120+ day sabbatical. Also, I think you're right on the 1 year thing (2 more days). Ask SRC. Maybe he'll add you back.

I don't want to be added back. I'm okay without it. If someone wants me added back later, I'll be voted in.

Someone asked for suggestions. Just trying to help.

Think of your first rules as your Articles of Confederation.

by Townie 2015-04-13, 14:49

Giant Moose wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:It wasn't a whim. There was a lengthy discussion, which you obviously missed since it occurred during your 120+ day sabbatical. Also, I think you're right on the 1 year thing (2 more days). Ask SRC. Maybe he'll add you back.
Townie and I should get upside down Geronte badges with no privileges for being inactive to warn others.

I am agreeable.

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** 2015-04-13, 14:51

I have a solution to SRC's "nightmare" scenario.

1. Give Nucky a pet troll badge
2. Actually give Nucky his own Nucky badge so that people aren't tricked into trying to have adult conversations with him. Make it something unique, like Nucky Thompson or 2 fat guys on a jet ski or something.
3. Make an amendment to the super secret charter that no new pet trolls can be elected to the Jerusalem. If you are already a pet troll and in the Jerusalem, you're good.

by **NigelUno** 2015-04-13, 14:55

Townie wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

In this case, if you voted no now...you would actually be helping to get them elected. So, not voting impacts the process.

I can't vote no. I was culled.

If you can just modify the time of inactivity to cull members on a whim, then why not restart the whole process now that the board has it's feet under it.

Can't you modify any rule until this board is 1 year old under the rules? Or is it 1 now?

I didn't mean "you" specifically. I appreciate your thoughts on this subject. They would have been helpful in the several lengthy discussions we had on the topic in the 5 months you didn't post here. Welcome back.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2015-04-13, 14:55

Turtleneck wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

Minnie needs to go. She's watering down my mod status.

Are you ready to go to Rivals yet?

Can't mod. Can't recruit new posters.

by **Heat Miser** 2015-04-13, 15:01

Townie wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:
Townie wrote:I can't vote no. I was culled.

If you can just modify the time of inactivity to cull members on a whim, then why not restart the whole process now that the board has it's feet under it.

Can't you modify any rule until this board is 1 year old under the rules? Or is it 1 now?

It wasn't a whim. There was a lengthy discussion, which you obviously missed since it occurred during your 120+ day sabbatical. Also, I think you're right on the 1 year thing (2 more days). Ask SRC. Maybe he'll add you back.

I don't want to be added back. I'm okay without it. If someone wants me added back later, I'll be voted in.

Someone asked for suggestions. Just trying to help.

Think of your first rules as your Articles of Confederation.

Honestly, if it were up to me, I would add you, Moose, State Farm, & Tim without all the formalities, but that's not the world we live in here.

by Guest 2015-04-13, 15:19

Heat Miser wrote:
Townie wrote:

I don't want to be added back. I'm okay without it. If someone wants me added back later, I'll be voted in.

Someone asked for suggestions. Just trying to help.

Think of your first rules as your Articles of Confederation.

Honestly, if it were up to me, I would add you, Moose, State Farm, & Tim without all the formalities, but that's not the world we live in here.

Honestly all I want is a board that is able to govern itself. If that takes 30-60 day culling, I'm good with it. If I haven't made a single post on a message board in 30 days why should I feel as though I have enough "invested" in that board to have a role in it's governance?

by **InTenSity** 2015-04-13, 15:21

LooseGoose wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:

Honestly, if it were up to me, I would add you, Moose, State Farm, & Tim without all the formalities, but that's not the world we live in here.

Honestly all I want is a board that is able to govern itself. If that takes 30-60 day culling, I'm good with it. If I haven't made a single post on a message board in 30 days why should I feel as though I have enough "invested" in that board to have a role in it's governance?

I just enjoy pissing all over the Spartiates from our Geronte Penthouse, next to the Playboy mansion with our very own tunnel to get to the grotto.

by **MiamiSpartan** 2015-04-13, 15:23

NigelUno wrote:
MiamiSpartan wrote:
You sound like Bush's people in 92 whining about Ross Perot.

You sound like a guy who doesn't give a shit, but that wants to keep talking...

You're half right.

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 2015-04-13, 15:25

MiamiSpartan wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

You can vote no.
I would vote "I don't give a shit", if that were an option....except that I wouldn't give enough of a shit to do that.

Let the gears of this legislative body grind to a halt. It will keep Big Gerousiament from invading our lives.

ATTN: GERONTES - THE POLLS ARE CLOSED - WAKE AND JAKE ARE NOW GERONTES, UNLESS SEEROCK CHANGED THE CHARTER OVERNIGHT - Page 5 Cropped-anarchy

by **NigelUno** 2015-04-13, 16:09

5 more votes needed. ATTN: GERONTES - THE POLLS ARE CLOSED - WAKE AND JAKE ARE NOW GERONTES, UNLESS SEEROCK CHANGED THE CHARTER OVERNIGHT - Page 5 4198636888

by **Snake Plissken** 2015-04-13, 16:14

MiamiSpartan wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

You sound like a guy who doesn't give a shit, but that wants to keep talking...
You're half right.

You give half a shit? That's nasty man

by **Rocinante** 2015-04-13, 16:25

Man, i missed a lot in this thread. Tanfan's butthurt I see. Nigel's being annoying. Just like the old days! I love this place!

by **NigelUno** 2015-04-13, 16:36

Rocinante wrote:Man, i missed a lot in this thread. Tanfan's butthurt I see. Nigel's being annoying. Just like the old days! I love this place!

You are now on Co9 Double Secret Probation.

by tanfan! 2015-04-13, 16:57

Heat Miser wrote:
Townie wrote:I can't vote no. I was culled.

If you can just modify the time of inactivity to cull members on a whim, then why not restart the whole process now that the board has it's feet under it.

Can't you modify any rule until this board is 1 year old under the rules? Or is it 1 now?

It wasn't a whim. There was a lengthy discussion, which you obviously missed since it occurred during your 120+ day sabbatical. Also, I think you're right on the 1 year thing (2 more days). Ask SRC. Maybe he'll add you back.

When is the last time Minnie posted? Has she been culled? Lol at the stupidity of all this. You fags sound like a homeowners association bitching about everything.

by **InTenSity** 2015-04-13, 16:58

Tanfan! wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:

It wasn't a whim. There was a lengthy discussion, which you obviously missed since it occurred during your 120+ day sabbatical. Also, I think you're right on the 1 year thing (2 more days). Ask SRC. Maybe he'll add you back.

When is the last time Minnie posted? Has she been culled? Lol at the stupidity of all this. You fags sound like a homeowners association bitching about everything.

At least we can bitch about it without the thread disappearing though. pirat

by Guest 2015-04-13, 17:01

Tanfan! wrote:When is the last time Minnie posted? Has she been culled? Lol at the stupidity of all this. You fags sound like a homeowners association bitching about everything.

And you sound like the cranky old fart that lost the election for the HOA Board.

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by **Heat Miser** 2015-04-13, 17:03

Tanfan! wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:
Townie wrote:I can't vote no. I was culled.

If you can just modify the time of inactivity to cull members on a whim, then why not restart the whole process now that the board has it's feet under it.

Can't you modify any rule until this board is 1 year old under the rules? Or is it 1 now?

It wasn't a whim. There was a lengthy discussion, which you obviously missed since it occurred during your 120+ day sabbatical. Also, I think you're right on the 1 year thing (2 more days). Ask SRC. Maybe he'll add you back.

When is the last time Minnie posted? Has she been culled? Lol at the stupidity of all this. You fags sound like a homeowners association bitching about everything.

You can find the answers to those questions on your own. The info is available to all.

by **NigelUno** 2015-04-13, 17:06

Tanfan! wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:

It wasn't a whim. There was a lengthy discussion, which you obviously missed since it occurred during your 120+ day sabbatical. Also, I think you're right on the 1 year thing (2 more days). Ask SRC. Maybe he'll add you back.

When is the last time Minnie posted? Has she been culled? Lol at the stupidity of all this. You fags sound like a homeowners association bitching about everything.

Are you back...again? I thought you left...again. Welcome back. Again.

by tanfan! 2015-04-13, 17:15

NigelUno wrote:
Tanfan! wrote:

When is the last time Minnie posted? Has she been culled? Lol at the stupidity of all this. You fags sound like a homeowners association bitching about everything.

Are you back...again? I thought you left...again. Welcome back. Again.

I never left.

by tanfan! 2015-04-13, 17:16

LooseGoose wrote:
Tanfan! wrote:When is the last time Minnie posted? Has she been culled? Lol at the stupidity of all this. You fags sound like a homeowners association bitching about everything.

And you sound like the cranky old fart that lost the election for the HOA Board.

u

How so?

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