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And half the country reads that and thinks to themselves "fuck yeah! America! Perteckt! When's the NASCAR race on I'm low on bud heavy."Robert J Sakimano wrote:it's a crazy world out there - and these are the very people who a) have a ton of money and b) have an entire political party in it's hip pocket.Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Jesus fucking Christ.
but, remember.. "never again".
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Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
And half the country reads that and thinks to themselves "fuck yeah! America! Perteckt! When's the NASCAR race on I'm low on bud heavy."
While the other half thinks they're better than a bunch of "slack jawed yokel rednecks that love nascar"
thus completing the cycle and starting it over
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What's so crazy about that? I wouldn't go as far as blaming the pastor directly but he and others that push "gun free zones" as a solution are bat shit crazy. You have to be some sort of blind idealist to believe that someone with mass murder on their mind is going to do anything but use those zones to their own advantage. Do you REALLY believe that a nut job is going to see a "gun free zone" and turn around and leave?? You can't be that naive, but obviously plenty of people are since they keep voting for them.Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Jesus fucking Christ.Robert J Sakimano wrote:NRA Board Member blames one of the victims for his own murder.. and the murder of the other 8 people...
NRA Board Member Blames Pastor For Charleston Murders
If you wanted to kill as many people as you could where would you go? Would you choose somewhere that people might fight back? Or perhaps you'd seek out places that had already disarmed your victims for you like "gun free zones". Virginia Tech, Newtown, Aurora, Columbine, etc, etc, - ignore the evidence if you choose to but it's out there.
Gun-free zones an easy target for killers
Time after time, we see that these killers tell us they pick soft targets. With just two exceptions, from at least 1950, all the mass public shootings have occurred in these gun-free zones. From last summer’s mass public killers in Santa Barbara and Canada, to the Aurora movie theater shooter, these killers made it abundantly clear in their diaries or on Facebook how they avoided targets where people with guns could stop them.
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Not quite following you there buckarooCORNER BLITZ wrote:Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
And half the country reads that and thinks to themselves "fuck yeah! America! Perteckt! When's the NASCAR race on I'm low on bud heavy."
While the other half thinks they're better than a bunch of "slack jawed yokel rednecks that love nascar"
thus completing the cycle and starting it over
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Robert J Sakimano wrote:NRA Board Member blames one of the victims for his own murder.. and the murder of the other 8 people...A board member for the National Rifle Association blamed the gun-control position of South Carolina state Sen. Clementa Pinckney, a pastor who was killed in Wednesday night’s shooting at a historic black church in Charleston, for the deaths of his congregation.
"he voted against concealed-carry. Eight of his church members who might be alive if he had expressly allowed members to carry handguns in church are dead,”
NRA Board Member Blames Pastor For Charleston Murders
My god. I just... I can't.....what the..... I mean..... he said..... the fuk
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Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina) - says the confederate flag is "who we are"...
The Confederate Flag is "Who We Are" - (aka - a racist)
The Confederate Flag is "Who We Are" - (aka - a racist)
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if it weren't so tragic.. and if 9 families weren't planning funerals today while wiping away tears.. you'd almost have to laugh.DWags wrote:Robert J Sakimano wrote:NRA Board Member blames one of the victims for his own murder.. and the murder of the other 8 people...
NRA Board Member Blames Pastor For Charleston Murders
My god. I just... I can't.....what the..... I mean..... he said..... the fuk
these people are insane. And that's probably a diplomatic way to put it.
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Robert J Sakimano wrote:Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina) - says the confederate flag is "who we are"...
The Confederate Flag is "Who We Are" - (aka - a racist)
I can't say this enough. This country hates each other. There is no compromise, there is no caring. It's my side or you're an asshole. Do I offend you? Fuck you I don't care. Middle ground is gone, it's getting progressively worse everyday, every year, every election.
Schools are failing in Detroit..... fuck them, here's less money, that will fix it.
Mental illness among teens under 16 has risen by 80% in the last ten years, fuck them cut programs.
People who love each other but are of the same sex want to get married.. Fuck them, pass laws where doctors who have taken a hippocratic oath don't have to help those queers.
Whatever, I'm pretty much done. Everybody get a gun.
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Robert J Sakimano wrote:if it weren't so tragic.. and if 9 families weren't planning funerals today while wiping away tears.. you'd almost have to laugh.DWags wrote:
My god. I just... I can't.....what the..... I mean..... he said..... the fuk
Fuck them, I don't care. I'm buying a gun to take to church so it never happens to me.
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BTW, do you have a suggestion for a church goin gun?
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I'd say one with a silencer.. you don't really want to be "that guy" who disrupts someone in the middle of prayer.DWags wrote:BTW, do you have a suggestion for a church goin gun?
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DWags wrote:Robert J Sakimano wrote:Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina) - says the confederate flag is "who we are"...
The Confederate Flag is "Who We Are" - (aka - a racist)
I can't say this enough. This country hates each other. There is no compromise, there is no caring. It's my side or you're an asshole. Do I offend you? Fuck you I don't care. Middle ground is gone, it's getting progressively worse everyday, every year, every election.
Schools are failing in Detroit..... fuck them, here's less money, that will fix it.
Mental illness among teens under 16 has risen by 80% in the last ten years, fuck them cut programs.
People who love each other but are of the same sex want to get married.. Fuck them, pass laws where doctors who have taken a hippocratic oath don't have to help those queers.
Whatever, I'm pretty much done. Everybody get a gun.
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sounds like you just authored a breakout session for next years Republican National Convention.DWags wrote:Robert J Sakimano wrote:Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina) - says the confederate flag is "who we are"...
The Confederate Flag is "Who We Are" - (aka - a racist)
I can't say this enough. This country hates each other. There is no compromise, there is no caring. It's my side or you're an asshole. Do I offend you? Fuck you I don't care. Middle ground is gone, it's getting progressively worse everyday, every year, every election.
Schools are failing in Detroit..... fuck them, here's less money, that will fix it.
Mental illness among teens under 16 has risen by 80% in the last ten years, fuck them cut programs.
People who love each other but are of the same sex want to get married.. Fuck them, pass laws where doctors who have taken a hippocratic oath don't have to help those queers.
Whatever, I'm pretty much done. Everybody get a gun.
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Couldn't agree more. We can blame people and should. This country is a shit hole for the most part. It's about greed. If you are willing to peel enough layers of the onion you will find its about money. It is truly the root of all evil.DWags wrote:Robert J Sakimano wrote:Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina) - says the confederate flag is "who we are"...
The Confederate Flag is "Who We Are" - (aka - a racist)
I can't say this enough. This country hates each other. There is no compromise, there is no caring. It's my side or you're an asshole. Do I offend you? Fuck you I don't care. Middle ground is gone, it's getting progressively worse everyday, every year, every election.
Schools are failing in Detroit..... fuck them, here's less money, that will fix it.
Mental illness among teens under 16 has risen by 80% in the last ten years, fuck them cut programs.
People who love each other but are of the same sex want to get married.. Fuck them, pass laws where doctors who have taken a hippocratic oath don't have to help those queers.
Whatever, I'm pretty much done. Everybody get a gun.
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kingstonlake wrote:Couldn't agree more. We can blame people and should. This country is a shit hole for the most part. It's about greed. If you are willing to peel enough layers of the onion you will find its about money. It is truly the root of all evil.DWags wrote:
I can't say this enough. This country hates each other. There is no compromise, there is no caring. It's my side or you're an asshole. Do I offend you? Fuck you I don't care. Middle ground is gone, it's getting progressively worse everyday, every year, every election.
Schools are failing in Detroit..... fuck them, here's less money, that will fix it.
Mental illness among teens under 16 has risen by 80% in the last ten years, fuck them cut programs.
People who love each other but are of the same sex want to get married.. Fuck them, pass laws where doctors who have taken a hippocratic oath don't have to help those queers.
Whatever, I'm pretty much done. Everybody get a gun.
Yup.
Can't imagine something I dislike more than the concept of money.
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corporations are people.kingstonlake wrote:Couldn't agree more. We can blame people and should. This country is a shit hole for the most part. It's about greed. If you are willing to peel enough layers of the onion you will find its about money. It is truly the root of all evil.DWags wrote:
I can't say this enough. This country hates each other. There is no compromise, there is no caring. It's my side or you're an asshole. Do I offend you? Fuck you I don't care. Middle ground is gone, it's getting progressively worse everyday, every year, every election.
Schools are failing in Detroit..... fuck them, here's less money, that will fix it.
Mental illness among teens under 16 has risen by 80% in the last ten years, fuck them cut programs.
People who love each other but are of the same sex want to get married.. Fuck them, pass laws where doctors who have taken a hippocratic oath don't have to help those queers.
Whatever, I'm pretty much done. Everybody get a gun.
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Memo to the south, you lost the civil war. Deal with it.
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steveschneider wrote:Memo to the south, you lost the civil war. Deal with it.
This wasn't about race, this was an attack on christianity! It's the non bible fearing homosexual take your gun queers you need to be mad at. Your anger is misplaced.
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That's an odd example for your rant. Your current President was opposed to Gay marriage 10 years ago along with most of the country. Polls show a steady growth of support for it over the last 20+ years, I don't see how that fits in your narrative of everything you care about getting "progressively worse".DWags wrote:I can't say this enough. This country hates each other. There is no compromise, there is no caring. It's my side or you're an asshole. Do I offend you? Fuck you I don't care. Middle ground is gone, it's getting progressively worse everyday, every year, every election.
People who love each other but are of the same sex want to get married..
Of course maybe you were referring to this portion - "Do I offend you? Fuck you I don't care." - where now it's not enough to live and let live on that very issue but now everyone must wear the ribbon or suffer.
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since Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glen BecKKK and other representatives of the republican party like to hold Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Barack Obama, and Eric Holder (wow - they're all black - shocking, I know) responsible with civil unrest in Baltimore, Ferguson, etc., I'm sure they're willing to hold themselves responsible for a white racist murdering 9 black people in church.
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LooseGoose wrote:That's an odd example for your rant. Your current President was opposed to Gay marriage 10 years ago along with most of the country. Polls show a steady growth of support for it over the last 20+ years, I don't see how that fits in your narrative of everything you care about getting "progressively worse".DWags wrote:I can't say this enough. This country hates each other. There is no compromise, there is no caring. It's my side or you're an asshole. Do I offend you? Fuck you I don't care. Middle ground is gone, it's getting progressively worse everyday, every year, every election.
People who love each other but are of the same sex want to get married..
Of course maybe you were referring to this portion - "Do I offend you? Fuck you I don't care." - where now it's not enough to live and let live on that very issue but now everyone must wear the ribbon or suffer.
I really don't know what you're talking about, but if you're as outraged as I am that the Michigan legislature is anti-gay, I couldn't agree more with you. Couples loving each other? Fuck them.
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I'm going to be honest with you Bob. I don't think they would be willing to do that.Robert J Sakimano wrote:since Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glen BecKKK and other representatives of the republican party like to hold Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Barack Obama, and Eric Holder (wow - they're all black - shocking, I know) responsible with civil unrest in Baltimore, Ferguson, etc., I'm sure they're willing to hold themselves responsible for a white racist murdering 9 black people in church.
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Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I'm going to be honest with you Bob. I don't think they would be willing to do that.Robert J Sakimano wrote:since Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glen BecKKK and other representatives of the republican party like to hold Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Barack Obama, and Eric Holder (wow - they're all black - shocking, I know) responsible with civil unrest in Baltimore, Ferguson, etc., I'm sure they're willing to hold themselves responsible for a white racist murdering 9 black people in church.
ya don't think?
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"And so I honestly have nothing other than just sadness, once again, that we have to peer into the abyss of the depraved violence that we do to each other and the nexus of a just gaping, racial wound that will not heal, yet we pretend doesn't exist."
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watched that this morning..Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:"And so I honestly have nothing other than just sadness, once again, that we have to peer into the abyss of the depraved violence that we do to each other and the nexus of a just gaping, racial wound that will not heal, yet we pretend doesn't exist."
it's a sad comment on society when you have to go to Comedy Central to get a rational thought and coherent commentary on a tragedy.
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I'd bump the last thread that we talked about this shit and where I said "I guarantee you within the next 12 months something like this will happen again" and I'll say this again: I guarantee you that within 12 months we'll see something like this happen again.
Know what? Who cares? Fuck them.
Know what? Who cares? Fuck them.
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steveschneider wrote:Memo to the south, you lost the civil war. Deal with it.
Fwiw, as us northern continue to move down here and run shit like a boss, it's really all they have anymore. Otherwise, the south would have been the white Methodist Mexico.
They need us ,but refuse to admit it and say thanks. Instead, they just make fun of Detroit
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only every 12 months?DWags wrote:I'd bump the last thread that we talked about this shit and where I said "I guarantee you within the next 12 months something like this will happen again" and I'll say this again: I guarantee you that within 12 months we'll see something like this happen again.
Know what? Who cares? Fuck them.
I like you optimism.
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DWags wrote:Robert J Sakimano wrote:Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina) - says the confederate flag is "who we are"...
The Confederate Flag is "Who We Are" - (aka - a racist)
I can't say this enough. This country hates each other. There is no compromise, there is no caring. It's my side or you're an asshole. Do I offend you? Fuck you I don't care. Middle ground is gone, it's getting progressively worse everyday, every year, every election.
Schools are failing in Detroit..... fuck them, here's less money, that will fix it.
Mental illness among teens under 16 has risen by 80% in the last ten years, fuck them cut programs.
People who love each other but are of the same sex want to get married.. Fuck them, pass laws where doctors who have taken a hippocratic oath don't have to help those queers.
Whatever, I'm pretty much done. Everybody get a gun.
Truth. Seems like there's more and more people these days that can't stand differing opinions (which, who cares if they have a different view as long as they're not imposing it on you or anyone else) and working together to find a middle ground. Also seems like our society just rewards being a selfish asshole and that trying to be good to others just gets you exploited by said selfish assholes.
Kind of a depressing world. Sucks that I'm only 24 and I don't see it getting better anytime soon.
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I wish I could move to an island and live off the land. What a simple, great life.
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Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:I wish I could move to an island and live off the land. What a simple, great life.
You sound like a virgin
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Blanch32 wrote:Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:I wish I could move to an island and live off the land. What a simple, great life.
You sound like a virgin
You're on tSwill, bruh, not the tRCMB. C'mon.
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Robert J Sakimano wrote:Fox News is calling it an "attack on the christian faith" -
You just can't help yourself...you love cable news.
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After seeing more than one place tout that clip I watched it and came away with what? I guess he wanted everyone to be impressed that he chose not to do comedy after the murder of 9 innocent people - ok, I'm fine with that and understand that many others would feel the same way. But I must have missed any other deep thoughts in that spiel unless they were written by Jack Handy.Robert J Sakimano wrote:watched that this morning..Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
it's a sad comment on society when you have to go to Comedy Central to get a rational thought and coherent commentary on a tragedy.
Who denies that racial divides still exist? Straw man.
Are there whites that hate blacks? Yep.
Are there blacks that hate whites? Yep.
OK, now we all agree and the straw man is knocked down. How are you or anyone else going to "solve" that? You're not going to in any kind of a short term fashion. I still say the racial divide is smaller now than it was 30-50 years ago and it'll probably take another 50-100 years to make more progress. In today's instant society people demand solutions that sometimes just aren't possible.
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The_Dude wrote:Robert J Sakimano wrote:Fox News is calling it an "attack on the christian faith" -
You just can't help yourself...you love cable news.
I saw it referenced online yesterday and read the transcript. Crazy folks.
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Of course that's not what I said but if distorting my words to "win" gets your rocks off enjoy yourself.DWags wrote:LooseGoose wrote:
That's an odd example for your rant. Your current President was opposed to Gay marriage 10 years ago along with most of the country. Polls show a steady growth of support for it over the last 20+ years, I don't see how that fits in your narrative of everything you care about getting "progressively worse".
Of course maybe you were referring to this portion - "Do I offend you? Fuck you I don't care." - where now it's not enough to live and let live on that very issue but now everyone must wear the ribbon or suffer.
I really don't know what you're talking about, but if you're as outraged as I am that the Michigan legislature is anti-gay, I couldn't agree more with you. Couples loving each other? Fuck them.
Here's an example of my problem with how things have progressed - gay marriage is legal, but a Mennonite couple not wanting to support gay marriage loses their business over it? Is that really the outcome we all want? Where is the intersection of the right to religious freedom and the right to gay marriage? Couldn't the gay couple just go get married elsewhere? I guess not, they wanted this couple's blood for not toeing the line and they got it. Everyone loses.
Fearing Another Lawsuit, Christian Business Owners Stopped Hosting All Weddings. Now Their Business Is Dead.
Charged with discriminating against a gay couple, the owners of another Christian family-run business are being forced to shut their doors.
“We can’t pretend it’s going to get better,” Betty Odgaard told The Daily Signal in an exclusive interview. “There wasn’t enough business.”
Betty and her husband, Richard, are the owners of Görtz Haus Gallery in Grimes, Iowa.
In 2002, they purchased the 77-year-old stone church and transformed it into a bistro, flower shop, art gallery and wedding venue.
On August 3, 2013, a gay couple from Des Moines asked to rent Görtz Haus for their wedding.
Because of their Mennonite faith, the Odgaards told the couple they could not host their wedding.
Within 24 hours, the couple filed a discrimination complaint through the Iowa Civil Rights Commission.
I'm sure people are dancing in the streets now that this threat to polite society has been nullified.
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LooseGoose wrote:Of course that's not what I said but if distorting my words to "win" gets your rocks off enjoy yourself.DWags wrote:
I really don't know what you're talking about, but if you're as outraged as I am that the Michigan legislature is anti-gay, I couldn't agree more with you. Couples loving each other? Fuck them.
Here's an example of my problem with how things have progressed - gay marriage is legal, but a Mennonite couple not wanting to support gay marriage loses their business over it? Is that really the outcome we all want? Where is the intersection of the right to religious freedom and the right to gay marriage? Couldn't the gay couple just go get married elsewhere? I guess not, they wanted this couple's blood for not toeing the line and they got it. Everyone loses.
you have a remarkable grasp on the very definition of "freedom"..
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Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:I wish I could move to an island and live off the land. What a simple, great life.
I kind of feel the same way, except I would like to live in a log cabin in the wilderness near a lake. Just me, maybe a lady, and the great outdoors without people mucking things up.
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LooseGoose wrote:What's so crazy about that? I wouldn't go as far as blaming the pastor directly but he and others that push "gun free zones" as a solution are bat shit crazy. You have to be some sort of blind idealist to believe that someone with mass murder on their mind is going to do anything but use those zones to their own advantage. Do you REALLY believe that a nut job is going to see a "gun free zone" and turn around and leave?? You can't be that naive, but obviously plenty of people are since they keep voting for them.Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Jesus fucking Christ.
If you wanted to kill as many people as you could where would you go? Would you choose somewhere that people might fight back? Or perhaps you'd seek out places that had already disarmed your victims for you like "gun free zones". Virginia Tech, Newtown, Aurora, Columbine, etc, etc, - ignore the evidence if you choose to but it's out there.
Gun-free zones an easy target for killersTime after time, we see that these killers tell us they pick soft targets. With just two exceptions, from at least 1950, all the mass public shootings have occurred in these gun-free zones. From last summer’s mass public killers in Santa Barbara and Canada, to the Aurora movie theater shooter, these killers made it abundantly clear in their diaries or on Facebook how they avoided targets where people with guns could stop them.
If you can't see what's so crazy about that you're part of the problem.
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Re: As a Proud American, I'm Very Happy to See the Confederate Flag Flying at the South Carolina State Capitol Today..
LooseGoose wrote:Of course that's not what I said but if distorting my words to "win" gets your rocks off enjoy yourself.DWags wrote:
I really don't know what you're talking about, but if you're as outraged as I am that the Michigan legislature is anti-gay, I couldn't agree more with you. Couples loving each other? Fuck them.
Here's an example of my problem with how things have progressed - gay marriage is legal, but a Mennonite couple not wanting to support gay marriage loses their business over it? Is that really the outcome we all want? Where is the intersection of the right to religious freedom and the right to gay marriage? Couldn't the gay couple just go get married elsewhere? I guess not, they wanted this couple's blood for not toeing the line and they got it. Everyone loses.
Fearing Another Lawsuit, Christian Business Owners Stopped Hosting All Weddings. Now Their Business Is Dead.Charged with discriminating against a gay couple, the owners of another Christian family-run business are being forced to shut their doors.
“We can’t pretend it’s going to get better,” Betty Odgaard told The Daily Signal in an exclusive interview. “There wasn’t enough business.”
Betty and her husband, Richard, are the owners of Görtz Haus Gallery in Grimes, Iowa.
In 2002, they purchased the 77-year-old stone church and transformed it into a bistro, flower shop, art gallery and wedding venue.
On August 3, 2013, a gay couple from Des Moines asked to rent Görtz Haus for their wedding.
Because of their Mennonite faith, the Odgaards told the couple they could not host their wedding.
Within 24 hours, the couple filed a discrimination complaint through the Iowa Civil Rights Commission.
I'm sure people are dancing in the streets now that this threat to polite society has been nullified.
I have no sympathy for those people. Just like I'd have no sympathy if they didn't allow a couple of two different races to rent their venue. If it were still an operating church, then I'd be okay with them not allowing couples who don't suit the church's religious philosophy to be married in the church. But it's not a church anymore. (Unless I'm misunderstanding and it is, in which case disregard this post.)
I'd equate this to a restaurant owner refusing to rent out a private room for a gay couple's anniversary party because the owner doesn't support gay marriage. Maybe not a perfect analogy, but whatever. Discrimination is discrimination.
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