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Michigan State freshman guard subject of criminal sexual conduct investigation
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A member of Michigan State's No. 2-ranked basketball team has been under investigation for criminal sexual conduct since the start of the fall semester, sources close to the case confirmed to Outside the Lines on Thursday.

Ingham County, Michigan, prosecutors are in the process of determining whether formal charges should be filed against the player, freshman guard Brock Washington. Washington, a walk-on from Southfield, Michigan, is named as the lone suspect in an alleged assault that Michigan State campus police have classified as fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct, the sources told Outside the Lines.

In August, a female student reported to campus police that Washington forcibly groped her without her permission, the sources told Outside the Lines. After an investigation, police on Dec. 13 forwarded their findings to the county prosecutor's office.

Details of the allegations and circumstances remain unknown; a police report has not been released publicly. Outside the Lines requested a copy of the police report through the university's public records office on Feb. 6, and the university responded Wednesday with a request for a 10-day extension to answer the request.

Outside the Lines reached out Thursday afternoon to multiple university officials and Washington for comment. None responded to calls, voicemails or emails. Outside the Lines also reached out to John Truscott, who was hired recently to lead the university's crisis communications efforts. Truscott, in response to a series of questions about the alleged incident and a request to release the police report, wrote in an email that he was not in a position to know anything about the case; when asked whether he would provide someone at the university who could answer questions or provide a statement, he responded that "I'm just saying we don't have any information at this time but will certainly look into it. We don't have access to police reports, nor does the police department inform anyone of actions such as this."

As part of a 2015 resolution agreement with the U.S. Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights, Michigan State police officials are required to inform university officials of such reports "promptly." According to the resolution: "the university will develop a written protocol between the university police and the university's Title IX coordinator that outlines how the parties will promptly notify each other when either receives a complaint of sexual or gender-based harassment, assault or violence, and to what extent they will coordinate efforts on behalf of the university to promptly and equitably respond; and how they will document those efforts, including all investigatory steps taken."

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OTL: Spartan secrets extend far beyond Larry Nassar
An Outside the Lines investigation has found a pattern of widespread denial, inaction and information suppression of sexual assault and violence allegations by officials ranging from campus police to the Spartans' athletic department.
The campus police department reports up through the university president's office, which is being led on an interim basis by former Michigan Gov. John Engler. Truscott is Engler's former communications director.

Fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct is considered a "high-court misdemeanor" in Michigan, meaning the maximum penalty for someone found guilty of the offense is two years of incarceration compared to the typical maximum sentence of one year for a regular misdemeanor.

Washington has suited up for Izzo's team every game this season, but as a younger member of an elite team has not seen any playing time. In October, Izzo said Washington and another walk-on "are capable of playing someplace" but were, at the time, shining as scout team players, according to a tweet from a Detroit Free Press reporter.

Izzo, Michigan State's athletic department and the university as a whole have been under scrutiny in recent weeks in part because of an Outside the Lines investigation that published on Jan. 26. The investigation found a pattern of widespread denial, inaction and information suppression of sexual assault, violence and gender discrimination complaints by officials ranging from campus police to the MSU athletic department.

The report publicized not-previously-known police reports of sexual or violent incidents involving members of the MSU football team and Izzo's storied basketball program, including one report made against a former undergraduate student-assistant coach who continued coaching after he had been criminally charged for punching a female MSU student in the face at a bar in 2010. A few months later, after the Spartans qualified for the 2010 Final Four, the same assistant coach was accused of sexually assaulting a different female student.

MSU athletic director Mark Hollis resigned from the university just hours ahead of the Outside the Lines report, and two days after Outside the Lines had asked MSU officials for comment on its findings.

Since the Outside the Lines reports published and aired late last month, Izzo has repeatedly declined to address specific issues raised in the report. On Tuesday, interim president Engler called the Outside the Lines stories "a sensationalized package of reporting" and said Izzo and football coach Mark Dantonio had been asked to refrain from comment while the report was being reviewed. Engler said: "I hope that MSU can soon respond in full and affirm the integrity and probity that has been the hallmark of these two respected coaches." ESPN said in a statement Tuesday, "We stand by our reporting."


Michigan State head coach Tom Izzo has declined to address specific allegations involving former members of his teams. Rey Del Rio/Getty Images
Among the key findings of the Outside the Lines report was that over the past three years, MSU had three times fought in court -- unsuccessfully -- to withhold names of athletes in campus police records. The school also had deleted so much information from some incident reports that they were nearly unreadable. In circumstances in which administrators had commissioned internal examinations to review how they have handled certain sexual violence complaints, officials had been selective in releasing information publicly. In one case, a university-hired outside investigator claimed to have not even generated a written report at the conclusion of his work.

When he was hired to help the university, Truscott told MLive media that "A priority is to change the culture. ... In crisis management, you need to admit it, own it and fix it. We're owning it."

One of the cases Izzo has been repeatedly asked about was that of Travis Walton, the undergraduate student assistant coach in 2010 who faced charges of misdemeanor assault and battery for punching a woman at an East Lansing bar but remained on Izzo's bench. Walton also had a sexual assault allegation made against him and two other players -- allegations that were reported to the athletic department, according to a copy of an internal Michigan State document written by a former university sexual assault counselor and obtained by Outside the Lines.

Izzo has said in recent weeks he cannot specifically recall why Walton, who stayed at his house briefly in 2010, left the program: "He graduated ... To be honest with you, I don't know why he left. I know he went to Europe to play."

Walton never faced charges in the alleged sexual assault, and he pleaded down to a civil infraction of littering and paid a $500 fine in the battery case.

David Meyers, the former assistant city attorney who handled the case, told Outside the Lines in January that he agreed to a plea deal with Walton after his defense attorney provided witness statements that contradicted two other witnesses to the alleged incident. Meyers has been highly critical of Outside the Lines' reporting, telling Michigan media outlets in recent weeks that he did nothing out of the ordinary in Walton's case and the arrangement was approved by his former boss and current City Attorney Tom Yeadon. Yeadon was quoted in a recent Detroit Free Press article as saying, "Oftentimes in assault cases, there are differing versions of who did what to whom. But that's still a fairly common plea agreement."

But in a Jan. 4 interview with Outside the Lines about Walton's case, Yeadon told an Outside the Lines reporter more than once that the conclusion to such an assault case was not common: "It is unusual that we would, for an assault, give that specific type of a plea arrangement especially if there [are] medical bills and that kind of thing unless we had some other problems with the case." Such "problems," he said then, could have been uncooperative victims, missing witnesses or procedural problems, but none of those were listed as factors in the 2010 case.

When contacted by Outside the Lines on Tuesday to address his conflicting statements, Yeadon confirmed his Jan. 4 comments and added, "When we have conflicting statements, it is not unusual. Perhaps I did not convey that clearly ... I didn't mean to mislead you, and I'm sorry if I did."

He said it indeed was common practice to plead assault cases to civil infractions because the end result would typically be the same as if the city had invested resources in a criminal prosecution; there would be a fine along with an informal probationary period, yet the alleged perpetrator would not have a criminal record. "[Walton] wasn't proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Did he admit responsibility to an offense and pay a fine? Yes," Yeadon said, noting that Walton's $500 was the highest the city could impose.

Walton has denied striking anyone in the bar. Walton also denied sexually assaulting the woman, according to a statement he issued Jan. 30: "I have never been charged with sexual assault and, to my knowledge, the alleged sexual assault was never reported to Michigan State University or the police. My encounters with this woman were more than just a single occasion, and my actions with her were always consensual."

Walton's statement also notes that he was never "hired or fired" by Michigan State University and that he left that summer to play basketball in Europe.

In its late-January reports, Outside the Lines reported that former MSU sexual assault counselor Lauren Allswede left the university in 2015 over frustrations about how administrators handled sexual assault cases. She told Outside the Lines that MSU administrators' entire approach to such cases had been misguided for years, especially when it came to cases involving athletes.


"Whatever protocol or policy was in place, whatever frontline staff might normally be involved in response or investigation, it all got kind of swept away and it was handled more by administration [and] athletic department officials," said Allswede, who worked at MSU for seven years. "It was all happening behind closed doors. ... None of it was transparent or included people who would normally be involved in certain decisions."

On Thursday, MLive reported that Hollis sent a letter to athletic department staffers this week reiterating his plan to cooperate with any investigations of MSU. He also criticized ESPN's reporting: "I can state with certainty that there were inaccurate, incomplete and misleading statements made and then reported by ESPN."

Hollis did not return a message from Outside the Lines seeking comment.
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Post by NWSpartan Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 0:31

Article from previous link.

Michigan State freshman guard subject of criminal sexual conduct investigation
9:17 PM PT
Paula Lavigne
ESPN Staff Writer

A member of Michigan State's No. 2-ranked basketball team has been under investigation for criminal sexual conduct since the start of the fall semester, sources close to the case confirmed to Outside the Lines on Thursday.

Ingham County, Michigan, prosecutors are in the process of determining whether formal charges should be filed against the player, freshman guard Brock Washington. Washington, a walk-on from Southfield, Michigan, is named as the lone suspect in an alleged assault that Michigan State campus police have classified as fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct, the sources told Outside the Lines.

In August, a female student reported to campus police that Washington forcibly groped her without her permission, the sources told Outside the Lines. After an investigation, police on Dec. 13 forwarded their findings to the county prosecutor's office.

Details of the allegations and circumstances remain unknown; a police report has not been released publicly. Outside the Lines requested a copy of the police report through the university's public records office on Feb. 6, and the university responded Wednesday with a request for a 10-day extension to answer the request.

Outside the Lines reached out Thursday afternoon to multiple university officials and Washington for comment. None responded to calls, voicemails or emails. Outside the Lines also reached out to John Truscott, who was hired recently to lead the university's crisis communications efforts. Truscott, in response to a series of questions about the alleged incident and a request to release the police report, wrote in an email that he was not in a position to know anything about the case; when asked whether he would provide someone at the university who could answer questions or provide a statement, he responded that "I'm just saying we don't have any information at this time but will certainly look into it. We don't have access to police reports, nor does the police department inform anyone of actions such as this."

As part of a 2015 resolution agreement with the U.S. Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights, Michigan State police officials are required to inform university officials of such reports "promptly." According to the resolution: "the university will develop a written protocol between the university police and the university's Title IX coordinator that outlines how the parties will promptly notify each other when either receives a complaint of sexual or gender-based harassment, assault or violence, and to what extent they will coordinate efforts on behalf of the university to promptly and equitably respond; and how they will document those efforts, including all investigatory steps taken."

OTL: Spartan secrets extend far beyond Larry Nassar
An Outside the Lines investigation has found a pattern of widespread denial, inaction and information suppression of sexual assault and violence allegations by officials ranging from campus police to the Spartans' athletic department.

The campus police department reports up through the university president's office, which is being led on an interim basis by former Michigan Gov. John Engler. Truscott is Engler's former communications director.

Fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct is considered a "high-court misdemeanor" in Michigan, meaning the maximum penalty for someone found guilty of the offense is two years of incarceration compared to the typical maximum sentence of one year for a regular misdemeanor.

Washington has suited up for Izzo's team every game this season, but as a younger member of an elite team has not seen any playing time. In October, Izzo said Washington and another walk-on "are capable of playing someplace" but were, at the time, shining as scout team players, according to a tweet from a Detroit Free Press reporter.

Izzo, Michigan State's athletic department and the university as a whole have been under scrutiny in recent weeks in part because of an Outside the Lines investigation that published on Jan. 26. The investigation found a pattern of widespread denial, inaction and information suppression of sexual assault, violence and gender discrimination complaints by officials ranging from campus police to the MSU athletic department.

The report publicized not-previously-known police reports of sexual or violent incidents involving members of the MSU football team and Izzo's storied basketball program, including one report made against a former undergraduate student-assistant coach who continued coaching after he had been criminally charged for punching a female MSU student in the face at a bar in 2010. A few months later, after the Spartans qualified for the 2010 Final Four, the same assistant coach was accused of sexually assaulting a different female student.

MSU athletic director Mark Hollis resigned from the university just hours ahead of the Outside the Lines report, and two days after Outside the Lines had asked MSU officials for comment on its findings.

Since the Outside the Lines reports published and aired late last month, Izzo has repeatedly declined to address specific issues raised in the report. On Tuesday, interim president Engler called the Outside the Lines stories "a sensationalized package of reporting" and said Izzo and football coach Mark Dantonio had been asked to refrain from comment while the report was being reviewed. Engler said: "I hope that MSU can soon respond in full and affirm the integrity and probity that has been the hallmark of these two respected coaches." ESPN said in a statement Tuesday, "We stand by our reporting."


Michigan State head coach Tom Izzo has declined to address specific allegations involving former members of his teams. Rey Del Rio/Getty Images
Among the key findings of the Outside the Lines report was that over the past three years, MSU had three times fought in court -- unsuccessfully -- to withhold names of athletes in campus police records. The school also had deleted so much information from some incident reports that they were nearly unreadable. In circumstances in which administrators had commissioned internal examinations to review how they have handled certain sexual violence complaints, officials had been selective in releasing information publicly. In one case, a university-hired outside investigator claimed to have not even generated a written report at the conclusion of his work.

When he was hired to help the university, Truscott told MLive media that "A priority is to change the culture. ... In crisis management, you need to admit it, own it and fix it. We're owning it."

One of the cases Izzo has been repeatedly asked about was that of Travis Walton, the undergraduate student assistant coach in 2010 who faced charges of misdemeanor assault and battery for punching a woman at an East Lansing bar but remained on Izzo's bench. Walton also had a sexual assault allegation made against him and two other players -- allegations that were reported to the athletic department, according to a copy of an internal Michigan State document written by a former university sexual assault counselor and obtained by Outside the Lines.

Izzo has said in recent weeks he cannot specifically recall why Walton, who stayed at his house briefly in 2010, left the program: "He graduated ... To be honest with you, I don't know why he left. I know he went to Europe to play."

Walton never faced charges in the alleged sexual assault, and he pleaded down to a civil infraction of littering and paid a $500 fine in the battery case.

David Meyers, the former assistant city attorney who handled the case, told Outside the Lines in January that he agreed to a plea deal with Walton after his defense attorney provided witness statements that contradicted two other witnesses to the alleged incident. Meyers has been highly critical of Outside the Lines' reporting, telling Michigan media outlets in recent weeks that he did nothing out of the ordinary in Walton's case and the arrangement was approved by his former boss and current City Attorney Tom Yeadon. Yeadon was quoted in a recent Detroit Free Press article as saying, "Oftentimes in assault cases, there are differing versions of who did what to whom. But that's still a fairly common plea agreement."

But in a Jan. 4 interview with Outside the Lines about Walton's case, Yeadon told an Outside the Lines reporter more than once that the conclusion to such an assault case was not common: "It is unusual that we would, for an assault, give that specific type of a plea arrangement especially if there [are] medical bills and that kind of thing unless we had some other problems with the case." Such "problems," he said then, could have been uncooperative victims, missing witnesses or procedural problems, but none of those were listed as factors in the 2010 case.

When contacted by Outside the Lines on Tuesday to address his conflicting statements, Yeadon confirmed his Jan. 4 comments and added, "When we have conflicting statements, it is not unusual. Perhaps I did not convey that clearly ... I didn't mean to mislead you, and I'm sorry if I did."

He said it indeed was common practice to plead assault cases to civil infractions because the end result would typically be the same as if the city had invested resources in a criminal prosecution; there would be a fine along with an informal probationary period, yet the alleged perpetrator would not have a criminal record. "[Walton] wasn't proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Did he admit responsibility to an offense and pay a fine? Yes," Yeadon said, noting that Walton's $500 was the highest the city could impose.

Walton has denied striking anyone in the bar. Walton also denied sexually assaulting the woman, according to a statement he issued Jan. 30: "I have never been charged with sexual assault and, to my knowledge, the alleged sexual assault was never reported to Michigan State University or the police. My encounters with this woman were more than just a single occasion, and my actions with her were always consensual."

Walton's statement also notes that he was never "hired or fired" by Michigan State University and that he left that summer to play basketball in Europe.

In its late-January reports, Outside the Lines reported that former MSU sexual assault counselor Lauren Allswede left the university in 2015 over frustrations about how administrators handled sexual assault cases. She told Outside the Lines that MSU administrators' entire approach to such cases had been misguided for years, especially when it came to cases involving athletes.


"Whatever protocol or policy was in place, whatever frontline staff might normally be involved in response or investigation, it all got kind of swept away and it was handled more by administration [and] athletic department officials," said Allswede, who worked at MSU for seven years. "It was all happening behind closed doors. ... None of it was transparent or included people who would normally be involved in certain decisions."

On Thursday, MLive reported that Hollis sent a letter to athletic department staffers this week reiterating his plan to cooperate with any investigations of MSU. He also criticized ESPN's reporting: "I can state with certainty that there were inaccurate, incomplete and misleading statements made and then reported by ESPN."

Hollis did not return a message from Outside the Lines seeking comment.
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Post by Nordic Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 0:34

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Not charged yet? Fuck it, let’s drag his name through the mud in the name of my career! Woooo!!!

And some question why MSU fought to withhold names during the Corely in investigation.
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Post by NWSpartan Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 0:40

Nordic wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Not charged yet? Fuck it, let’s drag his name through the mud in the name of my career! Woooo!!!

And some question why MSU fought to withhold names during the Corely in investigation.

Apparently if you are a Spartan athlete you are presumed guilty until you are found guilty. Athletes cannot be innocent.

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Post by Nordic Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 0:43

This one is going to backfire on her.

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Forget that he's a walk-on who hasn't played. Or if it fits a narrative at MSU. He hasn't been charged. You don't name a kid in this scenario - with an anonymous source, no less - with terms "sexual assault" attached. Forget MSU. This, more than anything, is unfair to the kid. https://twitter.com/pinepaula/status/964353109181874177 …

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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 0:44

Nordic wrote:This one is going to backfire on her.

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Forget that he's a walk-on who hasn't played. Or if it fits a narrative at MSU. He hasn't been charged. You don't name a kid in this scenario - with an anonymous source, no less - with terms "sexual assault" attached. Forget MSU. This, more than anything, is unfair to the kid. https://twitter.com/pinepaula/status/964353109181874177 …

11:55 PM - Feb 15, 2018

Going to take a lot more than Graham Couch to speak up.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 0:47

Spartanswill on Twitter has opined similarly.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 0:56

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WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Spartanswill on Twitter has opined similarly.
is that you WBH? LOL
Nah it's just an account I follow closely because that MF spits truth.
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Post by Nordic Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 0:56

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Spartanswill on Twitter has opined similarly.

That should do it
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Post by NWSpartan Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 0:58

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Re. ESPN’s report on a MSU walk-on mbb player, and the subsequent reactions to that report — lots of questions here. When it comes to the program, answers are needed on whether he should’ve been under temporary suspension since the fall as investigation proceeded/charges pended.

ESPN has chosen to name this player, despite no charges being filed yet and no police report being publicly available, and “details of the allegations and circumstances remain(ing) unknown.” That was their journalistic decision. It will be subject to plenty of scrutiny.
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gHost Spartan wrote: is that you WBH? LOL
Nah it's just an account I follow closely because that MF spits truth.

Lol
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Post by MattyFresh Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 1:19

It could be the third glass of whiskey but this article has tipped me over, is she fucking that daft and a complete and total air head?
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Post by NWSpartan Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 1:23

And the news is spreading. The article was promoted from an NFL World tweet.

Report: Michigan State basketball walk-on under investigation for sexual assault
The university has been investigating an alleged incident from August since the start of the fall semester
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Michigan State freshman Brock Washington is reportedly the subject of a sexual assault investigation that began at the start of the fall semester.

According to a report from ESPN's "Outside the Lines," Washington, a walk-on who hasn't appeared in a game this season for the No. 2 Spartans, has been accused by a female student of forcibly groping her without permission in August. Prosecutors in Ingham County, Michigan, are in the process of determining whether to file formal charges in the case.

Michigan State campus police, who the female student reported the incident to, have classified the alleged assault as fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct. A conviction could carry a maximum penalty of two years of incarceration.

The news of Washington being the subject of a sexual assault probe comes at a time when Michigan State has been under fire in recent months for its handling of previous sexual assault incidents. For years, the university employed disgraced physician Larry Nassar. An ESPN investigation released in late January also revealed details of a pattern of denial and suppression regarding allegations of sexual assault and violence.

Basketball coach Tom Izzo has also come under fire after details of an incident involving a former student-assistant coach revealed he continued to coach after he had been criminally charged for punching a female MSU student in the face at a bar in 2010. The coach, Travis Walton, was later accused of sexually assaulting a different female student according to the ESPN report.

Walton has denied the allegations.
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Post by Nordic Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 1:23

MattyFresh wrote:It could be the third glass of whiskey but this article has tipped me over, is she fucking that daft and a complete and total air head?

Yes

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Post by MattyFresh Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 1:23

apparently this guy is an educater?

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Post by MattyFresh Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 1:25

Nordic wrote:
MattyFresh wrote:It could be the third glass of whiskey but this article has tipped me over, is she fucking that daft and a complete and total air head?

Yes

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sorry, I think and I could be wrong but I am too lazy to check.. I think it means ridiculous and what not
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Post by NWSpartan Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 1:32

If all it took to get an athlete off the court/field is an accusation I could foresee some nefarious activity happening on behalf of rival opponents. All that would have to happen is to get alone in the same room with a top athlete... not so hard to do.
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Post by NWSpartan Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 1:44

Here's a thread from twitter...
https://twitter.com/howaboutafresca/status/964368502441132032
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If formal charges are filed against Michigan State freshman Brock Washington, who's suited up for every game, that'll end in Tom Izzo's dismissal as head coach.

9:19 PM - 15 Feb 2018
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 5:59

Well, this should really crystallize people's thoughts on whether or not this is yellow journalism.
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Post by DWags Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 6:20

Jesus. What ESPN is creating is an atmosphere that no athlete would want to step on our campus for fear of being under that microscope
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 6:48

When did they release this story? Midnight? Fucking hacks.
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Post by steveschneider Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 7:32

Lavigne is desperate. She’s had people come after her Integrity and she’s swinging back. Couch nails it:

https://twitter.com/graham_couch/status/964362607418208257
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Post by SawGreen Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 8:03

NWSpartan wrote:Here's a thread from twitter...
https://twitter.com/howaboutafresca/status/964368502441132032
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If formal charges are filed against Michigan State freshman Brock Washington, who's suited up for every game, that'll end in Tom Izzo's dismissal as head coach.

9:19 PM - 15 Feb 2018
1 Retweet 2 Likes LOUsion LOU.P.S.The Doc

That dude is stretching it. It's a groping accusation, and the dude hasn't played a minute. Hardly adds up to a hangman's noose for Izzo. Unfortunately, some of the newbs (like the special assignment info
dude) haven't done a stellar job in responding.
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Post by steveschneider Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 8:05

SawGreen wrote:
NWSpartan wrote:Here's a thread from twitter...
https://twitter.com/howaboutafresca/status/964368502441132032
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If formal charges are filed against Michigan State freshman Brock Washington, who's suited up for every game, that'll end in Tom Izzo's dismissal as head coach.

9:19 PM - 15 Feb 2018
1 Retweet 2 Likes LOUsion LOU.P.S.The Doc

That dude is stretching it. It's a groping accusation, and the dude hasn't played a minute. Hardly adds up to a hangman's noose for Izzo. Unfortunately, some of the newbs (like the special assignment info
dude) haven't done a stellar job in responding.

Another hack.
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Post by steveschneider Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 9:59

http://www.espn.com/espn/customercare/index

and 1 (888) 549-3776 will reach ESPN.

Leave a complaint. I'd keep it very brief and direct, and not too angry. Leave out the I hope you get sued stuff.

Here's what I wrote

'I was on twitter last night and I saw Joe Rexrode a journalist out of Nashville having a discussion about an OTL article that came out last night. He mentions he would never release a players name until charges are filed. I've seen other reputable journalist state the same about your recent article. In the article it names a player that hasn't been charged and the investigation hasn't been completed. I find this highly irresponsible and I think ESPN should do better. It not only is unfair to the alleged player, but it makes it very difficult for the police to do their job. Most importantly it makes it difficult to prosecute and is a disservice to the victims if a crime was committed. I look to ESPN to be a trusted source of sporting news, and I find this beneath your standards. Thanks for listening.  '
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Post by MiamiSpartan Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 10:05

SawGreen wrote:
NWSpartan wrote:Here's a thread from twitter...
https://twitter.com/howaboutafresca/status/964368502441132032
Jason Smith‏Verified account
@howaboutafresca
Follow Follow @howaboutafresca
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If formal charges are filed against Michigan State freshman Brock Washington, who's suited up for every game, that'll end in Tom Izzo's dismissal as head coach.

9:19 PM - 15 Feb 2018
1 Retweet 2 Likes LOUsion LOU.P.S.The Doc

That dude is stretching it. It's a groping accusation, and the dude hasn't played a minute. Hardly adds up to a hangman's noose for Izzo. Unfortunately, some of the newbs (like the special assignment info
dude) haven't done a stellar job in responding.
Police: 4 months to investigate.
Prosecutor: 2 months and counting to decide whether or not to charge.

So let's fire Izzo for not kicking this kid off the team immediately upon hearing of an accusation that is taking the authorities months to get to the bottom of.
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Post by Guest Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 10:06

MiamiSpartan wrote:
SawGreen wrote:

That dude is stretching it. It's a groping accusation, and the dude hasn't played a minute. Hardly adds up to a hangman's noose for Izzo. Unfortunately, some of the newbs (like the special assignment info
dude) haven't done a stellar job in responding.
Police: 4 months to investigate.
Prosecutor: 2 months and counting to decide whether or not to charge.

So let's fire Izzo for not kicking this kid off the team immediately upon hearing of an accusation that is taking the authorities months to get to the bottom of.

People are damned idiots.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 10:07

Twitter is just a toxic environment. Deleted that shit after regretting downloading it again
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Post by Guest Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 10:13

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Twitter is just a toxic environment. Deleted that shit after regretting downloading it again

Get your mind off twitter and get it to work on how I can win $100 tonight.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 10:14

LooseGoose wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Twitter is just a toxic environment. Deleted that shit after regretting downloading it again

Get your mind off twitter and get it to work on how I can win $100 tonight.

I’m ice cold goose, may sit out a weekend. Then again, my 5d check arrives today ... you give me the locks! I need some Ws
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 10:18

No NBA games until Tuesday. :(
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Post by steveschneider Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 10:29

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Steve come on you think they give a fuck AS MICHIGAN STATE ALUMS WE HAVE A FUCKING VOICE - WE SHOULD USE IT  - Page 10 502811600

Yes and no. Those responses get compiled in a report, and logged. I've had friends that have worked for Vanity Affair, RollingStone, WSJ, NewsWeek, Discovery etc. More or less it gets logged and if enough responses come in a low ranking person will make their superior aware we are seeing a bunch of complaints about ____ and that person will say keep on top of it and let me know if you see anything else. It more or less can put it on the radar for some big folks but it takes a lot more for it to make a difference.

I guarantee you that ESPN is monitoring shit on twitter, and stuff that Valenti is saying. I just figure a few viewer complaints can't hurt.
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 10:41

steveschneider wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Steve come on you think they give a fuck AS MICHIGAN STATE ALUMS WE HAVE A FUCKING VOICE - WE SHOULD USE IT  - Page 10 502811600

Yes and no. Those responses get compiled in a report, and logged. I've had friends that have worked for Vanity Affair, RollingStone, WSJ, NewsWeek, Discovery etc. More or less it gets logged and if enough responses come in a low ranking person will make their superior aware we are seeing a bunch of complaints about ____ and that person will say keep on top of it and let me know if you see anything else. It more or less can put it on the radar for some big folks but it takes a lot more for it to make a difference.

I guarantee you that ESPN is monitoring shit on twitter, and stuff that Valenti is saying. I just figure a few viewer complaints can't hurt.

I caught a little bit of Valenti's show yesterday. His producer made a comment about "people from ESPN" calling him about... things. He was a bit vague and they didn't get into details. Anyway, the producer said that he was getting a vibe that these people who weren't involved with the OTL report are not happy with the way things were portrayed.

I checked his podcast from yesterday and it didn't include this discussion.
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Post by I.B. Fine Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 10:45

I heard from an anonymous source that federal authorities have opened an investigation into behavior by ESPN reporter Paula Lavigne.

she reportedly tore the tag off her mattress
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Post by steveschneider Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 10:49

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Yes and no. Those responses get compiled in a report, and logged. I've had friends that have worked for Vanity Affair, RollingStone, WSJ, NewsWeek, Discovery etc. More or less it gets logged and if enough responses come in a low ranking person will make their superior aware we are seeing a bunch of complaints about ____ and that person will say keep on top of it and let me know if you see anything else. It more or less can put it on the radar for some big folks but it takes a lot more for it to make a difference.

I guarantee you that ESPN is monitoring shit on twitter, and stuff that Valenti is saying. I just figure a few viewer complaints can't hurt.

I caught a little bit of Valenti's show yesterday. His producer made a comment about "people from ESPN" calling him about... things. He was a bit vague and they didn't get into details. Anyway, the producer said that he was getting a vibe that these people who weren't involved with the OTL report are not happy with the way things were portrayed.

I checked his podcast from yesterday and it didn't include this discussion.

I can confirm he said that, I listened yesterday your post is pretty spot on to what he said. If he's telling the truth a few viewer complaints can't hurt. Just try not to sound like some die hard spartan fan in your complaint. Pick an issue with the report that any reasonable adult would agree with and make it.
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Post by MiamiSpartan Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 11:02

steveschneider wrote:http://www.espn.com/espn/customercare/index

and 1 (888) 549-3776 will reach ESPN.

Leave a complaint. I'd keep it very brief and direct, and not too angry. Leave out the I hope you get sued stuff.

Here's what I wrote

'I was on twitter last night and I saw Joe Rexrode a journalist out of Nashville having a discussion about an OTL article that came out last night. He mentions he would never release a players name until charges are filed. I've seen other reputable journalist state the same about your recent article. In the article it names a player that hasn't been charged and the investigation hasn't been completed. I find this highly irresponsible and I think ESPN should do better. It not only is unfair to the alleged player, but it makes it very difficult for the police to do their job. Most importantly it makes it difficult to prosecute and is a disservice to the victims if a crime was committed. I look to ESPN to be a trusted source of sporting news, and I find this beneath your standards. Thanks for listening.  '
You look to ESPN to be a trusted source of sporting news? Yeah, right.

That's stooping to some Paula Levigne level lying right there.
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Post by MiamiSpartan Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 11:04

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Yes and no. Those responses get compiled in a report, and logged. I've had friends that have worked for Vanity Affair, RollingStone, WSJ, NewsWeek, Discovery etc. More or less it gets logged and if enough responses come in a low ranking person will make their superior aware we are seeing a bunch of complaints about ____ and that person will say keep on top of it and let me know if you see anything else. It more or less can put it on the radar for some big folks but it takes a lot more for it to make a difference.

I guarantee you that ESPN is monitoring shit on twitter, and stuff that Valenti is saying. I just figure a few viewer complaints can't hurt.

I caught a little bit of Valenti's show yesterday. His producer made a comment about "people from ESPN" calling him about... things. He was a bit vague and they didn't get into details. Anyway, the producer said that he was getting a vibe that these people who weren't involved with the OTL report are not happy with the way things were portrayed.

I checked his podcast from yesterday and it didn't include this discussion.
It was on the podcast portion. I listened on the way home last night.
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Post by steveschneider Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 11:08

MiamiSpartan wrote:
steveschneider wrote:http://www.espn.com/espn/customercare/index

and 1 (888) 549-3776 will reach ESPN.

Leave a complaint. I'd keep it very brief and direct, and not too angry. Leave out the I hope you get sued stuff.

Here's what I wrote

'I was on twitter last night and I saw Joe Rexrode a journalist out of Nashville having a discussion about an OTL article that came out last night. He mentions he would never release a players name until charges are filed. I've seen other reputable journalist state the same about your recent article. In the article it names a player that hasn't been charged and the investigation hasn't been completed. I find this highly irresponsible and I think ESPN should do better. It not only is unfair to the alleged player, but it makes it very difficult for the police to do their job. Most importantly it makes it difficult to prosecute and is a disservice to the victims if a crime was committed. I look to ESPN to be a trusted source of sporting news, and I find this beneath your standards. Thanks for listening.  '
You look to ESPN to be a trusted source of sporting news? Yeah, right.

That's stooping to some Paula Levigne level lying right there.

I have in the past and I wish they would be a trusted source in the future so it is a half truth. But yeah, I did some butt kissing in my note to not look like a total angry Uber Spartan fan. Gotta be a little bit diplomatic.
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