Let's test the limits guys. RE: Legends of the other place.

Herbie Green wrote:Truth be told, Melo has been a dissapointment as well.  He puts up big numbers and is an all-star and all that but you never even know if he is an asset or a liability for the team he plays on.  You cant predict how a guy will respond to being a millionaire and I don't see that fire he had with Syracuse.  I did see it in the Olympics but rarely in the NBA.  
The season is just too long playing for shit teams I think he just cashed it in.  Maybe he can suck it up and have a Mark Aguire type role before he is done.

Snake Plissken wrote:I think you're posting in the wrong thread dude

Herbie Green wrote:

No.  You have to keep up

Herbie Green wrote:Truth be told, Melo has been a dissapointment as well. He puts up big numbers and is an all-star and all that but you never even know if he is an asset or a liability for the team he plays on. You cant predict how a guy will respond to being a millionaire and I don't see that fire he had with Syracuse. I did see it in the Olympics but rarely in the NBA.
The season is just too long playing for shit teams I think he just cashed it in. Maybe he can suck it up and have a Mark Aguire type role before he is done.

Scotts' Bloated Liver wrote:

Pretty spot on re: slickster. He was just a dumb kid. His meltdowns were some of the most epic things to witness. He annoyed me to the point that I obtained (stalked) all of his & his families personal info. and used it to drive him mental. I knew his address and found out there was a golf course behind his parents house. Always drove him nuts when I would tell him I just banged his mother(Julie) on the 9th fairway behind his parents house. Also randomly wishing his parents a happy birthday on their true birthdays seemed to send him over a ledge.

Am I proud of it? Not really....

Was it entertaining? Oh hells yes...

MiamiSpartan wrote:
Seriously, that's it? And that became taboo to discuss over there? JFC, the SpartyScott or whatever his name was welched on a bet and it was a running joke for years.

If someone came on and pretended to be one of the Navy SEALS that killed Bin Laden, would we not be able to make fun of that over there either?



(Background on the last sentence for you not-so-old timers: Early in the Iraq War, a poster named "SpartansAlwaysWin" came on the board and said that he was in the army and shipping out to Iraq. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but nothing seemed too out of the ordinary there and he got mad props all around...A few weeks or months later he comes back and claims that he helped rescue Jessica Lynch, who was captured in the early stages of the war, then rescued with a ton of media attention, had a TV movie made about her, etc. Problem was, his story completely fell apart as his facts didn't add up. I think he had originally claimed that he was part of one unit, and then that unit had nothing to do with the rescue. Other inconsistencies were also found out and he was shamed, never to return. This was long before the days of Nucky and someone going on the board to try to impersonate a war hero was disgusting even to the biggest trolls on the board. As it's been 10 years, someone can feel free to correct any details or add more...it became a long time running joke, as well).

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:I can shed some light on the Spartans Always Win thing. I'll do that tonight.

Also, I am trying to get Ty to register and explain the Pat Tillman comment, seeing as it is the 10 year anniversary of his passing today. RIP.

Another one I thought of that always got killed - the story behind the SSPM/Dorn saga and the omnipresent pic of Brian McGrain that was always cause for quick banning/deletion.

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:So here is the Spartans Always Win story.

I'm gonna say it was probably 2002 or so. I had moved back to MI from Texas and my good buddy growing up had just bought a house in Ferndale and rented me a room. He is an honorary Spartan, and in fact posted on the other board, though not very frequently.

His bedroom was in the basement, which is also where the entertainment center was, bar, and his computer desk, which he was cool with me using if I was down there.

Side story. We have another good buddy who we grew up with who was in the Army. Growing up, he was quite the bullshitter. And I mean that in the best way possible. He would not lie about anything important, just a huge storyteller. He made out with his 8th grade teacher after football practice. His dad was on the Greek National soccer team and was the only goalie to ever shut out the Russians, etc. Just spectacular lies, but ones you couldn't really (or didn't care to) prove wrong.

Well one of his things was that he was going off to the Army to become a Ranger. While he was out there, he would write us letters, emails, etc about how he was selected to be a Ranger, etc. He even got "RANGER" tattooed on his shoulder. We were never really sure what the actual scoop was. Was he or wasn't he? The roommate buddy and I were always joking with each other and other buddies who were onto this dude about what the actual truth was. (not relevant to story, but a few years later we found out that he actually went to Ranger school, which is not the same as being in the 75th Ranger Regiment or whatever, which is what he tried to pass off).

Back to the main story. I was posting a ton in those days. Roomate knew about the board and knew I was on there all the time but didn't post himself. Around the same time the Iraqi War was going on, and Spartans Always Win started posting about how he was in the Ranger regiment that rescued Jessica Lynch. If I remember correctly, there were also posts from SAW's "wife" stating she was logged into his account, and was so worried about him going overseas, etc. Everyone on the board was blown away, and bought in to the story. There wasn't a whole lot of trolling/cat fishing going on back then, at least to the extent there is now on the internet.

I personally wasn't really into the drama on the board, until I was downstairs in our house and went to log into the board one day. My original username back in those days was SpartanmanMike. So I nav'd to the username field and typed an 'S' and the cookies auto-filled the field with "SpartansAlwaysWin". Totally dumbfounded. Eventually all of the board admiration for SAW got a little thick, and without totally letting the cat out of the bag, I told the board he was a phony, and it became a running gag. Don't think he ever posted again after that.

I don't know what the story was with my buddy. He went through some strange years (as we all did) where he was a little less than straightforward about some things. I confronted him on it, along with another buddy who read the board and was familiar with the saga. He denied it, naturally. Claimed it was a work laptop and the guy who had it before him must have been the one doing it, and he had no idea what we were talking about. I kinda suspect it was some kind of strange plot to trap our other buddy in a lie, but never really got to the bottom of it.

Not sure what he would say if asked about it now. We've all grown up a lot since then so I think he might admit it. Then again, he might have already dug the hole too deep.

No TL;DR provided. Because if you don't care, don't fucking read it.

tTy wrote:

Just started reading this thread, this may be as far as I get in this thread, but I want to point out that I was the first to call that fucking POS out for this. And I still haven't made up for #PatTillmanGate.....

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Here is story #2. We'll call it the "McGrain saga".

At some point back in the early to mid 00's, well after the "Tatergate", new blood was introduced to the board in the form of a poster with the handle "S Rodlund". He came on like gangbusters, posting about how his roommate left shit in the toilet, or shit on the toilet seat or something or other. It was potty humor, but it was definitely humorous because it was outside the normal scope of what generally considered acceptable on the old board. Yet, it was tolerated for awhile.

Rodlund had some good posts and was pretty funny. Eventually he was joined by an obvious co-conspirator, Sugar Sweet Pete McGrain. SSPM just killed it. This guy was the ultimate humorous troll in the day before trolls, with just an impeccable sense of timing. He would come onto the board during an Izzo to the Hawks spazzout and post a thread title of "Izzo reportedly gone" and then the body of the post would be "....to the L&L grocery store at Lake Lansing in Okemos". Seems stupid now but people would freak the **** out, and if you weren't in on it, you were a victim of it. Guy would post about how he would send Izzo emails about how to prep the team for games, and, again, the people who didn't get it would spazz out and say "WHY ARE YOU EMAILING THE COACH??! STOP IT!" etc. The rest of us were dying. One of the Coach Izzo advice emails bore the famous phrase 'games are won in 3 places - on the court, in the locker room, and on the message boards'.

TB and Co were getting a bit fed up with the trolling at the time, and there were some intermittent bannings of these accounts - S Rodlund and Sugar Sweet Pete McGrain. It was also during this time that people began posting various photos of Brian McGrain, which eventually resulted in immediate deletion/bannning (for reference http://www.brianmcgrain.com/images/main_brian.gif)

This was also about the time that poster "Snoodboss" got into the mix. This guy was a total spazz, eventually threatening to sue everybody, and starting his own poorly planned board called "spartantailstate" (which gained zero traction).

I was not affiliated with S Rodlund or SSPM at all, but I remember one day I was bored and I cooked up a tale that seemed plausible in my mind. TB deleted it within a few hours. It detailed a theory in which basically the poster S Rodlund and SSPM were clowning on a couple of guys that they knew and posting under pseudonyms of their names.

Within a year or so, the poster S Rodlund had disappeared, but SSPM was still posting. There was a new poster named Roger Dorn who posted much in the same manner as S Rodlund. Dude was pretty funny. In the meantime, SSPM had become aligned through back channels with myself and some of my friends on the board. We all headed up to EL for the NCAA Tournament in maybe '03, or '04 or '05 first round. SSPM agreed to meet us.

There were many laughs had that day, but one of the funniest was that he revealed to me that my completely random narrative that TB deleted was exactly correct. There were 4 guys who were enrolled in a graduate program at MSU together. 2 of them decided to clown on the other 2 for whatever reason. Each started a user account on the old board  invoking the name of the two guys they were clowning on - David "Seth" Rodlund and Brian McGrain. Eventually the guys they were clowning on discovered the ruse and got butt hurt. That was around when "Snoodboss" threatened to sue, etc. And since then, any picture of the "real" Brian McGrain was taken down and deemed ban worthy.

The funniest shit, however, was not that this story was revealed to us. It was a look inside the brain of the poster formerly known as Sugar Sweet Pete McGrain (and later Ron Coleman, Flex Wheeler, etc). Dude was just an absolute trip, always thinking about how he could troll. Nothing harmful, but in those days, the slightest troll that hooked users was a pretty damn hilarious one. He detailed to us how he used to go onto the Cleveland version of the M-Live boards and post threads titled simply "Jordan over Ehlo - it's good!!" (google it kids), and how he used to go to the Oregon Live Women's forums and post stuff like "Wife is a fat pig, need help forcing her to eat less." Just completely absurd. Ah, the mind of a deranged message board genius.

I haven't attempted to troll a message board in probably 10+ years, but I still look back on these things and they crack me up.

Spartan_MJ wrote:Didn't read through thread entirely.

What about Lo the texan and the tKid? I have seen Lo lately but his pre-game fictional narratives were legendary and the tKid -- his blast about being a Spartan was equally great.

Either of them around?

tTy wrote:

I have a couple of these archived if anyone wants to read a couple more.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++

(First: Sorry about the timing on this. I usually get these things out by
> Thursday. This week was a bit nerve-racking you see, as it was midterm week
> here at UT Austin. I had back to back finance exams. If you've never had
> back to back finance exams before and want to know what it feels like, do
> this: Find an 80 pound suit of armor and put it on. Now go stand in direct
> sunlight in Phoenix in August for about 6 hours. Have someone pour honey
> and grape jam all over your suit. Then have someone release a swarm of
> bees. Run like hell, flailing your arms and screaming bloody murder.
> Repeat. OK, on to the pick....)
>
> Coach Saban sat in his office Sunday morning, slowly carving eight grooves
> into the surface of his desk with the worn down stumps of what were left of
> his fingernails. Surrounding his slumped over form were various piles of
> broken pencils, shattered coffee mugs, cracked picture frames, torn up foam
> "#1" fingers, a football with a bite taken out of it, and a shredded sports
> section from the Detroit Free Press. Saban's eyes were bloodshot and the
> rims around them were raw and red. His jaw hurt from clenching his teeth
> for 14 straight hours, and his temples throbbed a slow, mean, methodical
> beat. Saban knew better than to be out in public right now. He knew there
> would be people, and access to blunt objects that he could use to bludgeon
> the heads of those people. He just sat there, twitching slightly, wearing
> grooves into his desk, trying hard to let the fumes of anger from losing to
> Purdue bleed out of him. He kept repeating to himself quietly, "No focus.
> We had no focus. No focus...."
>
> It was at that moment when senior Aric Morris walked into the office. He
> was wearing a garish Hawaiian shirt, a dripping wet swimsuit, flip-flop
> sandals, and a hat that had "NASA Space Camp Cadet" printed on it. He had a
> towel around his neck, and was eating the third can of a connected six pack
> of Del Monte butterscotch pudding. Aric greeted his coach by saying, "Yo
> coach, Robaire and Boo Boo and I are playing toy boats in the hot tub. You
> oughta check this out. Robaire painted one of the boats blue and yellow,
> and we keep sinking it and sinking it while Boo Boo sings 'we win, 34 to 31,
> la la la' over and over. Coach? Hey, yo, coach, what's up? Why are you
> shaking like that? Yo coach, your face looks awful red. Coach? Yo man,
> you want some pudding?"
>
> Those were the last words Morris ever spoke. As soon as the last syllable
> in "pudding" crossed his lips, Saban exploded. I don't mean he got really
> mad and yelled. I mean he literally exploded. Combusted. Blew up. BOOM!
> The whole office wing of the Duffy Daugherty football building went up in a
> great orange fireball. They say they found bits of Saban and Morris as far
> away as the parking lot of Chi-Chi's in Okemos. It took a full 20 minutes
> before Morris' pudding spoon landed in the Red Cedar river, and fell to its
> final resting place next to five bicycles, three hubcaps, and a parking
> meter.
>
> So without a coach and without a key member of the secondary, the team was
> left to its own devices. A hasty "players-only" meeting was called.
> Robaire Smith spoke first:
>
> Robaire Smith: Hey, everybody settle down. Put those "We beat Michigan,
> we're number 1" foam fingers down. Knock it off. Hey, I mean it. Duckett!
> Put that Gameboy down. Hey, Renaldo Hill, I'm talking to you. No, I don't
> want to help you with the TV Guide crossword puzzle right now. No, I don't
> know the name of Arnold Drummand's goldfish in "Different Strokes". Dang
> it, I'm trying to get your attention here.
> Josh Thornhill: Abraham
> Smith: What?
> Thornhill: Arnold's goldfish. His name was Abraham.
> Smith: All right, that does it. SHUT UP EVERYBODY RIGHT NOW!!!!!
>
> (An eerie silence followed. Duckett put down his game boy. Gari Scott and
> Plaxico Burress stopped playing Cat's Cradle with a shoelace. Greg
> Robinson-Randle gave up trying to jiggle the little BB's into the eyes of
> the bear. The entire team put down their cans of pudding. Craig Jarrett
> was shaken awake by somebody, sat up half way and rubbed his eyes, and then
> laid back down.)
>
> Smith: In case you didn't realize it, we lost a game last Saturday. BAD.
> Duckett: What? I thought the season was over after Michigan.
> Smith: Well, I know, I know. A lot of us did. Turns out there are like,
> five more games after that.
>
> (Murmurs, and shrugs, and astonished stares.)
>
> Hill: Oh my God! How did we let this happen?
> Tailback Lloyd Clemmons: I should have said something. I really let the
> team down. I knew we had more games. Oh, when I first got here, back
> during the Carter Administration, I didn't want to believe it. But its
> true. We play eleven games a season... MINIMUM.
> Burress: Eleven games!!!??? Are you kidding??? At this rate I won't play
> in the NFL until a whole YEAR from now.
> Smith: That's right. None of us will. And I have more bad news for you.
> Coach Saban and Aric Morris exploded today.
> Duckett: What do you mean, they exploded?
> Smith: Just what I said. Didn't you notice the huge burning hole in the
> end of the building?
> Duckett: I thought that was from students celebrating after the Michigan
> game.
> Smith: That's OK son, a lot of us did. But that's our reality right now.
> So what are we going to do about it?
> Craig Jarrett, sitting up and looking sleepy: I say we get mad!!!!
> Team: Yeah!
> Jarrett, sleepy but agitated: I say we take the BULL BY THE HORNS!!!!
> Team: YEAH!!!!
> Jarrett, bleary eyed, but enraged: I say, we gotta go GO... GO....!!!!
> KICK SOME ASS!!!!
> Team, falling all over themselves, knocking pudding all over the room:
> WOOOO!!!!! YEAH!!!! KILL!!!!
> Jarrett, at the top of his lungs: NOW LET'S GO GIVE IT 100%!!!!
> Team: WOOOO!!!!! AAAARRRROOOO!!!!
> Jarrett (quietly, out of the corner of his mouth to QB Billy Burke): I just
> woke up. What the heck's going on? What did I just do?
> Burke: I'll tell you later. Let's get the heck out on the practice field.
>
> The team, freaking out mad, excited, fired up, tore out of the locker room
> (breaking the door in the process) and out onto the field, where they put in
> a week of the most inspired preparation the world has ever seen. Coach
> Morris Watts took over for Saban. The MSU team found out later that they
> were playing Wisconsin, the team that lost to Cincinnati earlier in the
> season, but has since come back and pounded Ohio State and Indiana. The MSU
> players had a new found passion upon learning that the Big 10 wasn't made up
> of just one other team, Michigan. "Wow!" Thought safety Lorenzo Guess,
> "It's just like the basketball team. They play a bunch of other games too!"
> The MSU players took that momentum and tore into Madison with a fire in
> their bellies, and beat the Badgers in a close one, 27 to 24. Later the
> next week, Robaire Smith and Boo Boo Thompson played with a red and white
> boat in the hot tub, singing "We win, 27 to 24, la la la..."
>
> From deep in Texas by way of Flat, Black, and Circular Records,
> Larry (Pudding Boy) E

tTy wrote:Anyone recall the Lake Lansing Message Board with any detail and/or accuracy? Prolly way too old skew.

tTy wrote:Anyone recall the Lake Lansing Message Board with any detail and/or accuracy? Prolly way too old skew.

Crazy Jim9 wrote:This is the point in the thread where Old Wise One needs to participate.

Dendrobates wrote:

Come on....I'm not making it a competition here. Just saying women in general on the board are harassed more than the avg poster IRL and in PM. It took a while to get used to it. I am not making a big deal out of everything and whining. Just making a statement. But please continue with making everything all about you.

DWags wrote:

Usually hit up the BTT in bball or the high school state finals with Steve every year.   We're in this little thing that gambles on  h.s. basketball in Michigan.  Just the tournament.   He just released the state budget yesterday, he's too busy to be on the innnerwebs lately.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:I see SSPM around town every now and then and always chuckle to myself..

tTy wrote:Katy Gold...... I will defer to WBH for this write-up for obv purposes...

Floyd Robertson wrote:

Rings a bell, but I can't remember shit about her.

CheesySpartan wrote:

That chuckle goes both ways I'm sure....

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Yeah I'm not going there. There's legalities and stuff.

MiamiSpartan wrote:
No way! Solid Fluff was a legend, whichever one of you taters was him.  He was what schticks should be (Bolley, Enorme, and a few others as well), that has a theme and sticks to it.  99% of what people consider schticks are just sock puppets, created just to troll or hide behind a different name.  Calling those "schticks" does a disservice to the greats.

GatorBill wrote:This is true. My oldest daughter would be a great poster on this or any other sports board. I have advised her against it (partly to protect my ability to be an ass, and partly to protect her from the other asses)

Wally Fairway wrote:
Probably a good choice, after Mrs GB called you out for screwing around on the board whilst you were supposed to be helping here with some charity event.

Wally Fairway wrote:Who was the poster/schtick that posted about his wife going on a trip (Indianapolis, maybe) and that she then hooked up with her ex, while he was having to watch the kids; and if I remember correctly the kids were hers from a previous marriage?