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Post by DWags 06/07/24, 02:48 pm

I’m telling you the American people will pull this off

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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Post by DWags 06/07/24, 02:52 pm

Cameron wrote:
sεяεηιτλ wrote:

you read a tweet, did you see the whole statement?  This person was quoting a single line and you are easily manipulated.  Find the source and report back in shame, as i am sure he said something like that instead of the selective reporting you are suckling from.

Here it is on video, dickhead:

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Now explain to me again how it was a great answer that really meets the moment. Because all I see is an old egotist who is okay if he loses, so long as he's the only one who is allowed to try.




Why the fuck wouldn’t that dickead ask the president this: “If you drop out, and Trump wins how will you feel?”


What a pos steffsnopolis is. Wrong question.
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Post by DWags 06/07/24, 04:16 pm

I feel the momentum turning here. The American people are going to take it to the streets. (via internet) Fuck the press Fuck trump, fuck the whiners, taking it to the streets.

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Post by sεяεηιτλ 06/07/24, 04:27 pm

Cameron wrote:t2024 presidential election thread.  Let’s do this.  Biden v. Trump II  - Page 21 200.gif?cid=ddb306a5ourj9plkra6vq1vhk9lydi094ngtwa3zqlc7g6wx&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200

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dudette, face the terrible fact that you are easily swayed by a single tweet. You don't look further than that, you see something that confirms your view, you immediately agree with it, and you go out and spread that word without a single moment of critical thought in trying to confirm its authenticity.

I'm not even asking you to like biden, just look a little deeper so you're not so easily manipulated. You can still think that dumb thoughtless line of attack about that statement is made up horse shit while still hating Biden. they are not mutually exclusive. It's called being realistic and real with yourself and the world around you.

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Post by DWags 06/07/24, 04:55 pm

it's coming if he wins. Get ready.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano 06/07/24, 06:31 pm

PennSpartan wrote:
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Yes, he has flaws. I don’t think I can be more clear. So, Biden vs Trump I’m voting Biden. How about you?


I can list Trumps flaws but I guess they aren’t as important. And I e even been told I should t list them I this thread. Weird I know.
I am absolutely voting for Biden if he is the candidate on November 5. That is not in question for me. I’m just hoping we have a different candidate running against Trump on that day.
barring a tragedy, it's not going to happen.

the rest of this is Russia-inspired mainstream media narratives. Y'all are falling for it.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 06/07/24, 06:34 pm

DWags wrote:I feel the momentum turning here. The American people are going to take it to the streets.  (via internet)  Fuck the press Fuck trump, fuck the whiners,  taking it to the streets.

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I gotta tell ya, I've been beating the "the mainstream media is the worst thing to happen to America" drumbeat for a while.. decades, I suspect ('ol Guest even left because he got sad that I kept pointing it out t2024 presidential election thread.  Let’s do this.  Biden v. Trump II  - Page 21 502811600 ) - but I do get a sense that people are starting to recognize it.
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Post by Trapper Gus 06/07/24, 06:39 pm

FWIW, as we have been talking about it in the "Replace Biden" thread, WOTS is that the Trump campaign does not have a GOTV campaign ongoing and doesn't plan to start one.

Now this should be read with a giant saltshaker, but if even partly true Trump is in big trouble.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 06/07/24, 06:41 pm

Trapper Gus wrote:FWIW, as we have been talking about it in the "Replace Biden" thread, WOTS is that the Trump campaign does not have a GOTV campaign ongoing and doesn't plan to start one.

Now this should be read with a giant saltshaker, but if even partly true Trump is in big trouble.
what does that mean (seriously)?

and explain it to me like I'm the idiot that I am.

thanks.
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Post by Trapper Gus 06/07/24, 06:51 pm

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:FWIW, as we have been talking about it in the "Replace Biden" thread, WOTS is that the Trump campaign does not have a GOTV campaign ongoing and doesn't plan to start one.

Now this should be read with a giant saltshaker, but if even partly true Trump is in big trouble.
what does that mean (seriously)?

and explain it to me like I'm the idiot that I am.

thanks.

You are not an idiot, but the acronym is more a political insider one.

Get Out The Vote.

How this is done is that each possible voter is identified, and various data attributes are codified for them from publicly available sources, such as buying Facebooks user data as Trump did in 2016, in his case for sending targets ads to individuals.

At one point after the 2016 election both parties were keeping a list of every voter in the US with hundreds of data points about each voter to try to keep their GOTV lists up to date.

These lists are then sorted into "our voters", "their voters" and "potentially our voters".

Then the "our voters" and "potentially our voters" are contacted, months before the election, to be verified as either "our voters", still "potentially our voters" and "their voters".

This sorting goes on all the way through the election.

During the election we make sure that "our voters" from the lists from months of work, and the still "potentially our votes" actually do vote.  This can be as detailed as monitoring the precinct voters lists on election day and contacting the voters who have not yet voted.

GOTV is what turns out as many as possible of the voters who vote for us during the election.


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Post by Robert J Sakimano 06/07/24, 08:47 pm

Trapper Gus wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:
what does that mean (seriously)?

and explain it to me like I'm the idiot that I am.

thanks.

You are not an idiot, but the acronym is more a political insider one.

Get Out The Vote.

How this is done is that each possible voter is identified, and various data attributes are codified for them from publicly available sources, such as buying Facebooks user data as Trump did in 2016, in his case for sending targets ads to individuals.

At one point after the 2016 election both parties were keeping a list of every voter in the US with hundreds of data points about each voter to try to keep their GOTV lists up to date.

These lists are then sorted into "our voters", "their voters" and "potentially our voters".

Then the "our voters" and "potentially our voters" are contacted, months before the election, to be verified as either "our voters", still "potentially our voters" and "their voters".

This sorting goes on all the way through the election.

During the election we make sure that "our voters" from the lists from months of work, and the still "potentially our votes" actually do vote.  This can be as detailed as monitoring the precinct voters lists on election day and contacting the voters who have not yet voted.

GOTV is what turns out as many as possible of the voters who vote for us during the election.
thanks, man. That helps.
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Post by sεяεηιτλ 06/07/24, 09:13 pm

DWags wrote:it's coming if he wins. Get ready.

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was this even in question?
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Post by PennSpartan 06/07/24, 09:16 pm

This reminds me of Spartan Football. The “mainstream media” says we’re going to suck, but we know we will be national champions! t2024 presidential election thread.  Let’s do this.  Biden v. Trump II  - Page 21 502811600
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Post by Trapper Gus 07/07/24, 07:06 am

PennSpartan wrote:This reminds me of Spartan Football.  The “mainstream media” says we’re going to suck, but we know we will be national champions! t2024 presidential election thread.  Let’s do this.  Biden v. Trump II  - Page 21 502811600

With posts like this I have to remind myself that you don't live in Michigan, where Michigan owns the media.

BTW, at least on national publication has MSU as last in the B1G for football this year.
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Post by Trapper Gus 07/07/24, 07:24 am

Per: www.bloomberg.com/... wrote:July 6, 2024 at 9:00 AM EDT

President Joe Biden registered his best showing yet in a Bloomberg News/Morning Consult tracking poll of battleground states, even as voters offered withering appraisals of his debate performance amid panic within his party.

Republican Donald Trump led Democrat Biden by only 2 percentage points, 47% to 45%, in the critical states needed to win the November election. That's the smallest gap since the poll began last October. Biden now leads Trump in Michigan and Wisconsin. He’s within the poll’s statistical margin of error in Arizona, Georgia, Nevada and North Carolina, and is farthest behind in the critical state of Pennsylvania.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano 07/07/24, 08:01 am

front page of CNN this morning:

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no mention of the republican/libertarian christian hero, rape, 34 felony convictions or Project 2025.


stop paying attention to the mainstream media.

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Post by PennSpartan 07/07/24, 08:24 am

Trapper Gus wrote:
Per: www.bloomberg.com/... wrote:July 6, 2024 at 9:00 AM EDT

President Joe Biden registered his best showing yet in a Bloomberg News/Morning Consult tracking poll of battleground states, even as voters offered withering appraisals of his debate performance amid panic within his party.

Republican Donald Trump led Democrat Biden by only 2 percentage points, 47% to 45%, in the critical states needed to win the November election. That's the smallest gap since the poll began last October. Biden now leads Trump in Michigan and Wisconsin. He’s within the poll’s statistical margin of error in Arizona, Georgia, Nevada and North Carolina, and is farthest behind in the critical state of Pennsylvania.

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Biden is behind by 7 points in Pennsylvania. This is a must win state and he was born here.
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Post by PennSpartan 07/07/24, 08:40 am

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4757323-warner-senator-biden-drop-campaign/
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Post by Trapper Gus 07/07/24, 09:30 am

Daily Kos’ Joan McCarter" wrote:   Republicans have created a disaster on abortion since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade two years ago. They have no message to justify their extreme forced birth positions. Their candidates are afraid to talk about it. And their standard bearer—convicted felon Donald Trump—can’t give a coherent statement about where he stands.

Meanwhile, Democrats are on offense, knowing public opinion is on their side.

New Gallup polling shows just how much the GOP needs to worry about abortion. Not only does it show a record high support for abortion rights, but it also shows that a record high percentage of voters—32%— say they’ll vote solely on the issue. That breaks down to 23% of pro-choice voters and just 8% of anti-abortion voters

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/7/6/2250995/-There-s-a-GOP-battle-brewing-over-the-party-s-abortion-platform
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Post by Trapper Gus 07/07/24, 09:51 am

PennSpartan wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4757323-warner-senator-biden-drop-campaign/

The Biden campaign’s pollster, Molly Murphy, has touted internal polling showing that the Democrat has “narrowed the gap” among independents. The latest Bloomberg News/Morning Consult poll shows a similar pattern, with Biden and Trump tied among swing-state independents at 40% each. In the May poll, Biden trailed Trump among independents, 36% to 44%.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-07-06/biden-narrows-trump-s-election-lead-in-key-states-after-debate-poll
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Post by TravelinMan 07/07/24, 09:55 am

Trapper Gus wrote:
PennSpartan wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4757323-warner-senator-biden-drop-campaign/

The Biden campaign’s pollster, Molly Murphy, has touted internal polling showing that the Democrat has “narrowed the gap” among independents. The latest Bloomberg News/Morning Consult poll shows a similar pattern, with Biden and Trump tied among swing-state independents at 40% each. In the May poll, Biden trailed Trump among independents, 36% to 44%.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-07-06/biden-narrows-trump-s-election-lead-in-key-states-after-debate-poll

The first and only such poll so far. From Biden’s campaign no less.
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Post by PennSpartan 07/07/24, 10:22 am

Trapper Gus wrote:
Per: www.bloomberg.com/... wrote:July 6, 2024 at 9:00 AM EDT

President Joe Biden registered his best showing yet in a Bloomberg News/Morning Consult tracking poll of battleground states, even as voters offered withering appraisals of his debate performance amid panic within his party.

Republican Donald Trump led Democrat Biden by only 2 percentage points, 47% to 45%, in the critical states needed to win the November election. That's the smallest gap since the poll began last October. Biden now leads Trump in Michigan and Wisconsin. He’s within the poll’s statistical margin of error in Arizona, Georgia, Nevada and North Carolina, and is farthest behind in the critical state of Pennsylvania.

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“The debate didn't even change to polls, Penn, and the polls are engineered by the pollsters to show what the talking heads want them to show.”

This is what you said yesterday, Trapper. And now you are posting polls to show that Biden still has a chance. Which is it?
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 07/07/24, 10:42 am

just checkin' in to remind y'all that Joe Biden is still old.

Enjoy Secretary of State Marjorie Taylor Green, Secretary of Education Lauren Boebert and Minister of White Christian Nationalism Ted Cruz. t2024 presidential election thread.  Let’s do this.  Biden v. Trump II  - Page 21 3493939353

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Post by Trapper Gus 07/07/24, 10:51 am

PennSpartan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

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“The debate didn't even change to polls, Penn, and the polls are engineered by the pollsters to show what the talking heads want them to show.”

This is what you said yesterday, Trapper. And now you are posting polls to show that Biden still has a chance. Which is it?

The surreal explanation of polls in my twisted mind...



And something about how you guys look at polls...

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Who does this? A wedding? Tell me it’s not a cult.

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DWags wrote:Who does this? A wedding? Tell me it’s not a cult.

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calling it a 'cult' is probably the nicest thing you can say about them.
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Post by Trapper Gus 07/07/24, 01:31 pm

Sort of surprised that the US Marines would allow that, however maybe the "groom" is just wearing a costume.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 07/07/24, 01:45 pm

this happened 5 years ago, if it matters


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7241165/amp/Michigan-couple-throws-MAGA-themed-wedding-complete-GUNS.html
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Post by Jake from State Farm 07/07/24, 02:04 pm

DWags wrote:Who does this? A wedding? Tell me it’s not a cult.

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That's a lot of fabric
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Post by sεяεηιτλ 07/07/24, 03:34 pm

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:this happened 5 years ago, if it matters


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7241165/amp/Michigan-couple-throws-MAGA-themed-wedding-complete-GUNS.html

Jeeeeesus fuck
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Post by sεяεηιτλ 07/07/24, 03:35 pm

Jake from State Farm wrote:
DWags wrote:Who does this?   A wedding?   Tell me it’s not a cult.  

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That's a lot of fabric

How many trump flags died in the creation of this dress?

I bet she already weighs as much as her two bridesmaids at present.
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Post by GRR Spartan 07/07/24, 04:17 pm

The calls for Biden to not seek another term are growing because the toilet never flushes up.

Guessing Slotkin wins the Democratic primary to face what appears to be Trump's endorsed candidate Mike Rogers. That means the seat in Congress Slotkin won in 2022 is wide open with no incumbent.

Trump wins with disengaged voters who are just sick of politics sitting home and knows the probability of Republicans winning solid majorities in the US House, US Senate, state gubantorial and legislative goes up if there are voters who stay home or cast a protest vote against Biden saving face about voting for Trump.

If the potential 18-30 demo that's unhappy with Biden might sit this out giving Trump a win and giving a big boost to all Republicans on the ballot. As bad they vote vote for a Green Party , Libertarian or independent RFK jr and say they voted.

When Biden is using the GOP's "Inside the Beltway" line you know the calls for him to step down are getting louder and getting harder to ignore.

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Post by PennSpartan 07/07/24, 04:43 pm

GRR Spartan wrote:The calls for Biden to not seek another term are growing because the toilet never flushes up.

Guessing Slotkin wins the Democratic primary to face what appears to be Trump's endorsed candidate Mike Rogers. That means the seat in Congress Slotkin won in 2022 is wide open with no incumbent.

Trump wins with disengaged voters who are just sick of politics sitting home and knows the probability of Republicans winning solid majorities in the US House, US Senate, state gubantorial and legislative goes up if there are voters who stay home or cast a protest vote against Biden saving face about voting for Trump.

If the potential 18-30 demo that's unhappy with Biden might sit this out giving Trump a win and giving a big boost to all Republicans on the ballot. As bad they vote vote for a Green Party , Libertarian or independent RFK jr and say they voted.

When Biden is using the GOP's "Inside the Beltway" line you know the calls for him to step down are getting louder and getting harder to ignore.

Is there an English translation of this gibberish? I can’t figure out what you are talking about. Sorry.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 07/07/24, 04:45 pm

UK said no to fascism.

Official election results Friday showed a landslide victory for the country’s center-left Labour Party

France said no to fascism.

A shock election result in France puts the left in the lead


US: Joe Biden is old..

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Post by PennSpartan 07/07/24, 05:47 pm

Robert J Sakimano wrote:UK said no to fascism.

Official election results Friday showed a landslide victory for the country’s center-left Labour Party

France said no to fascism.

A shock election result in France puts the left in the lead


US: Joe Biden is old..

Old, senile, weak, slack jawed, forgetful, glassy eyed, every thing you want in a President, right?
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Post by GRR Spartan 07/07/24, 05:49 pm

Just Real Politik Penn.  

Your grey cells must be getting tired.

I'm past 60, worked, have worked in multiple campaigns with meeting with campaign managers for US Senate (Spencer Abraham never that vote coming),  Governor (Jim Blanchard who picked a much older running mate and Martha bit him in the ass) and several congressional campaigns, one of which Peter Meijer defeated current member of Congress Scholten (GOP didn't know what they had there)

Major donors, US Senators, members of Congress and others who aren't in the media are calling for Biden not run in November.

If harming the bottom of the Democrats on the ballot is beyond you maybe I should be surprised.


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Post by TravelinMan 07/07/24, 05:49 pm

PennSpartan wrote:
GRR Spartan wrote:The calls for Biden to not seek another term are growing because the toilet never flushes up.

Guessing Slotkin wins the Democratic primary to face what appears to be Trump's endorsed candidate Mike Rogers. That means the seat in Congress Slotkin won in 2022 is wide open with no incumbent.

Trump wins with disengaged voters who are just sick of politics sitting home and knows the probability of Republicans winning solid majorities in the US House, US Senate, state gubantorial and legislative goes up if there are voters who stay home or cast a protest vote against Biden saving face about voting for Trump.

If the potential 18-30 demo that's unhappy with Biden might sit this out giving Trump a win and giving a big boost to all Republicans on the ballot. As bad they vote vote for a Green Party , Libertarian or independent RFK jr and say they voted.

When Biden is using the GOP's "Inside the Beltway" line you know the calls for him to step down are getting louder and getting harder to ignore.

Is there an English translation of this gibberish? I can’t figure out what you are talking about. Sorry.

GRRamps speaks as much gibberish as Pudding Brains.
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Post by PennSpartan 07/07/24, 05:57 pm

GRR Spartan wrote:Just Real Politik Penn.  

Your grey cells must be getting tired.

I'm past 60, worked, have worked in multiple campaigns with meeting with campaign managers for US Senate (Spencer Abraham never that vote coming),  Governor (Jim Blanchard who picked a much older running mate and Martha bit him in the ass) and several congressional campaigns, one of which Peter Meijer defeated current member of Congress Scholten (GOP didn't know what they had there)

Major donors, US Senators, members of Congress and others who aren't in the media are calling for Biden not run in November.

If harming the bottom of the Democrats on the ballot is beyond you maybe I should be surprised.
I worked for the McGovern campaign when I was a Sophomore in high school. Massive failure that I learned from. This will be similar. I only hope Biden sympathizers admit this failure in November. I doubt they will.
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