AS MICHIGAN STATE ALUMS WE HAVE A FUCKING VOICE - WE SHOULD USE IT

SawGreen wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote: I shall do my best.

These aren't women getting kidnapped. I talk to my daughters about this stuff and caution them to never get remotely close to a situation where this could happen...particularly when it's a group of boys. I think the group mentality kicks in and introduces too many variables like shared blame, peer pressure, etc.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:

I'm sure as a level headed father you'll be able to offer her some common sense tips to remain safe on the MSU or any other campus.

I shall do my best.

DWags wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote: I shall do my best.

Kids a junior there. 45,000 people are there. As long as you’re a father you worry about your kid. What they do and who they’re with. Every. Single. Day.

That’s a fact that will never go away.

But here’s the deal, I’ve seen pics of some pretty prominent fb and bb players at her apartment and house. And here’s my thought. Fuck ESPN. Those bastards have done their work. They’ve painted the whole fucking program as what we saw and as a result every player as that. Fuck them and fuck us if we don’t say what’s right. Many and I mean many of the kids I’ve seen with her are outstanding students and people. They were not afforded that by ESPN. Two of them as freshmen and sophomores would never have a drink at any parties. One just wrote a great letter to victims. Many many many are just like you and I and frankly I’m often happy the kid and her roommates know them because of the exact opposite that ESPN report paints the program as. Fuck ESPN.

And if any of you don’t understand the ESPN article that gives percentages of non athletes vs athletes in crimes and prosecutions you’re part of the problem making some great kids wear a scarlet letter for something they are nowhere near. They are outstanding people athletes and students. Fuck those 4 guys last year fuck any kid on campus who assaults a girl fuck ESPN for painting the whole program with that brush and fuck any of us for helping them do that.

The best part of it his is getting a call and learning that this is actually bringing students even closer together in campus, the worst part of it is, even in my house where we know better I have a kid who is hesitant to go to MSU. I’m beyond frustrated.

LooseGoose wrote:When you have people in the media mindlessly parroting the ESPN story without doing any fact checking or original reporting on their own this is what you get.


I still want to see how MSU ranks among colleges reports of sexual assaults for context.

I still want to see the breakdown of where Nasser's assaults occurred.

MiamiSpartan wrote:

Cameron wrote:

RE: Appling/Payne - My recollections are that one claimed to have stopped when she said stop, the other didn't talk to police.

The other, perhaps it wasn't "rape," I'm too inebriated to recall clearly. But I think it was some variety of sexual assault, for which the police ought to be involved. Just telling your mom doesn't seem like enough to me.

From what I've read about the "tell your mom" thing (again, this is from message boards, as that's all the info we have on this, I think) is that he WAS kicked off the team, the police WERE aware of it, and they and/or the prosecutor didn't press charges.

Maybe that was the case, maybe not, but you seem to be giving a lot of credence to that 3rd or 4th handed account. This is why you should care about "fair". I don't care how angry you are, without fairness, we're nothing as a country. There have been untold amounts of injustice done in this country when people's anger has blinded them to fairness.

LooseGoose wrote:Solari retweeting more old dirt....

Zach Gorchow@ZachGorchow Jan 27
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A 1998 story I wrote for The State News about how MSU tried to convince East Lansing not to make public a police report on an alleged assault committed by baskeball star Mateen Cleaves.

MattyFresh wrote:I saw that he called out the rcmb, I really wonder if Chris even knows the whole story or is just skimming and dishing

DWags wrote:I get this doesn’t matter, but fuck ESPN hypocrites. Still I understand we need to clean our own house.

DWags wrote:I get this doesn’t matter, but fuck ESPN hypocrites. Still I understand we need to clean our own house.

LooseGoose wrote:

DWags wrote:I get this doesn’t matter, but fuck ESPN hypocrites. Still I understand we need to clean our own house.

DWags wrote:I get this doesn’t matter, but fuck ESPN hypocrites. Still I understand we need to clean our own house.

To say "what about" is pure tribalism. ;-)

Floyd Robertson wrote:

MattyFresh wrote:I saw that he called out the rcmb, I really wonder if Chris even knows the whole story or is just skimming and dishing

It's no longer a journalist's job to either know the whole or tell the whole story, only to present enough "facts" that allow the reader to reach the intended conclusion.

gHost Spartan wrote:

steveschneider wrote:Ghost you have any ideas yet?

I have a ton of ideas but prefer not to discuss them in an open public forum

gHost Spartan wrote:

steveschneider wrote:Ghost you have any ideas yet?

I have a ton of ideas but prefer not to discuss them in an open public forum

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

Here is an interview with the woman who put the OTL story together.

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

Here is an interview with the woman who put the OTL story together.

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/jemelehill/status/958419934081634305

One of our own.

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:The girl from the Travis Walton Dublin Square/drink incident is apparently going on Ryan Schulling's show (whoever that is) today to discuss her side of the story.

It is being posted elsewhere that she was all over the comments section of one of the Walton statement articles yesterday throwing around wild accusations about how Izzo's lawyer's run East Lansing.

NigelUno wrote:

Da Mayor wrote:

As long as your daughter doesn't suck a dick at a party, regret it the next morning, then try to construe it as rape, she'll be fine.

I want to be very transparent about this...you're being an asshole.

Shut the fuck up.

Ashley Thompson · Eastern Virginia Medical School
Ben Carter. He was formally charged with assaulting me, the case was plead down to littering due to coercion and the pull of Tom Izzo on that city. The report is public record if you need proof or I'll be happy to post a copy for you.

Ashley Thompson Eastern Virginia Medical School
Joe Nemec. I did. The interview they did with me was about 6 hours long and they only showed a few minutes of it. I couldn't find an attorney in the city that wanted to take the case and go up against the high powered mouth pieces Izzo hired in his defense. He was very close with Izzo, living in his basement at the time.

Ashley Thompson Eastern Virginia Medical School
Alex Thomas. Not at all. I have no goal for this other thsn to dissapate the privileged, omnipotent culture of athletics and prevent other women from getting hurt. I was approached by espn 4 months ago after they pulled the last 10 years of police reports involving msu players and found mine from 2010. I only found out that Izzo was aware of the incident recently bc espn has a release from the judge to MSU allowing walton to travel with the team during ongoing charges. Usually you can't leave the state when you're accused of assault

Ashley Thompson · Eastern Virginia Medical School
Rob Brown. Thank you very much, hoping to dispel rumors and assumptions. The whole point of this was to expose the truth in an attempt to prevent future harm for other women. These people are ruining the point with conspiracy theories

Ashley Thompson · Eastern Virginia Medical School
The judge presiding over my case had to issue a release to let Walton travel with the team with pending charges so he could legally go out of the state. This was relased direclty to MSU athletics so I'm sure Izzo knew about it on top of the fact that Walton was living in his basement at the time. Check your facts

Ashley Thompson · Eastern Virginia Medical School
Dick Guzzo It has little to do with Nassar except MSU officials knew about all of these various accusations and charges against both him and multiple players over the past decade and managed to keep them all quiet. Silence in these situations not only promotes a culture of entitled "stars" can do harm to others with no consequence but decreases public awareness of dangerous individuals that could be avoided. I was approached by espn 4 months ago after they pulled the last 10 years of charges filled against players and found mine from 2010. Im not riding any media hype, my case was one of the first and was just swept under the rug for 8 years. I get nothing from this except public scrutiny, but it's worth it if my story can prevent future women from harm.

Ashley Thompson · Eastern Virginia Medical School
Greg Adams. I would love to see this video because that never happened. The bar did have the incident on camera, which 2 of my friends and I viewed that night to ID him, and subsequently was reported by the manager later "to not have caught that angle"

Ashley Thompson · Eastern Virginia Medical School
Rashad Targaryen-Baratheon Because I'm not a lawyer or a cop. The police report states they talked to the manager who said there was no angle and that they would investigate further but it never happened, or wasn't documented. The prosecutor just told me there was no tape, it was out of my hands. All I ever wanted was a trial or at least a hearing. It's asinine to reduce assault and battery to littering ever. If they found the accusation to be untrue they would have dismissed with no plea. There was plenty of evidence including pictures of my face, medical reports and 4 witnesses that supported my side including the bouncer that stated he overherad the crowd surrounding me on the ground he just saw me get punched

Ashley Thompson · Eastern Virginia Medical School
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Ashley Thompson · Eastern Virginia Medical School
Aaron Brown I never threw a drink at him. I told him to f*** off when he was hitting on me in a bar and he struck me. He never reported to the police back then that I threw a drink at him. That new fabrication just came out yesterday in his attempt to persuede the public of his "innocence"

Ashley Thompson · Eastern Virginia Medical School
Britt Bonarigo He was arrested for my assault. I'll give you a copy if you would like

Ashley Thompson · Eastern Virginia Medical School
Haha yeah, its actually me. Just wanted to see what people were saying about the whole thing. You can compare my facebook pics with my espn interview. Just for proof, the original East Lansing incident report is #10-20272, you can look it up because arrest records are a matter of public record. If I could post pictures to this feed I would upload it for you.

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:

Ashley Thompson · Eastern Virginia Medical School
Ben Carter. He was formally charged with assaulting me, the case was plead down to littering due to coercion and the pull of Tom Izzo on that city. The report is public record if you need proof or I'll be happy to post a copy for you.

Ashley Thompson Eastern Virginia Medical School
Joe Nemec. I did. The interview they did with me was about 6 hours long and they only showed a few minutes of it. I couldn't find an attorney in the city that wanted to take the case and go up against the high powered mouth pieces Izzo hired in his defense. He was very close with Izzo, living in his basement at the time.

Ashley Thompson Eastern Virginia Medical School
Alex Thomas. Not at all. I have no goal for this other thsn to dissapate the privileged, omnipotent culture of athletics and prevent other women from getting hurt. I was approached by espn 4 months ago after they pulled the last 10 years of police reports involving msu players and found mine from 2010. I only found out that Izzo was aware of the incident recently bc espn has a release from the judge to MSU allowing walton to travel with the team during ongoing charges. Usually you can't leave the state when you're accused of assault

Ashley Thompson · Eastern Virginia Medical School
Rob Brown. Thank you very much, hoping to dispel rumors and assumptions. The whole point of this was to expose the truth in an attempt to prevent future harm for other women. These people are ruining the point with conspiracy theories

Ashley Thompson · Eastern Virginia Medical School
The judge presiding over my case had to issue a release to let Walton travel with the team with pending charges so he could legally go out of the state. This was relased direclty to MSU athletics so I'm sure Izzo knew about it on top of the fact that Walton was living in his basement at the time. Check your facts

Ashley Thompson · Eastern Virginia Medical School
Dick Guzzo It has little to do with Nassar except MSU officials knew about all of these various accusations and charges against both him and multiple players over the past decade and managed to keep them all quiet. Silence in these situations not only promotes a culture of entitled "stars" can do harm to others with no consequence but decreases public awareness of dangerous individuals that could be avoided. I was approached by espn 4 months ago after they pulled the last 10 years of charges filled against players and found mine from 2010. Im not riding any media hype, my case was one of the first and was just swept under the rug for 8 years. I get nothing from this except public scrutiny, but it's worth it if my story can prevent future women from harm.

Ashley Thompson · Eastern Virginia Medical School
Greg Adams. I would love to see this video because that never happened. The bar did have the incident on camera, which 2 of my friends and I viewed that night to ID him, and subsequently was reported by the manager later "to not have caught that angle"

Ashley Thompson · Eastern Virginia Medical School
Rashad Targaryen-Baratheon Because I'm not a lawyer or a cop. The police report states they talked to the manager who said there was no angle and that they would investigate further but it never happened, or wasn't documented. The prosecutor just told me there was no tape, it was out of my hands. All I ever wanted was a trial or at least a hearing. It's asinine to reduce assault and battery to littering ever. If they found the accusation to be untrue they would have dismissed with no plea. There was plenty of evidence including pictures of my face, medical reports and 4 witnesses that supported my side including the bouncer that stated he overherad the crowd surrounding me on the ground he just saw me get punched

Ashley Thompson · Eastern Virginia Medical School
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Ashley Thompson · Eastern Virginia Medical School
Aaron Brown I never threw a drink at him. I told him to f*** off when he was hitting on me in a bar and he struck me. He never reported to the police back then that I threw a drink at him. That new fabrication just came out yesterday in his attempt to persuede the public of his "innocence"

Ashley Thompson · Eastern Virginia Medical School
Britt Bonarigo He was arrested for my assault. I'll give you a copy if you would like

Ashley Thompson · Eastern Virginia Medical School
Haha yeah, its actually me. Just wanted to see what people were saying about the whole thing. You can compare my facebook pics with my espn interview. Just for proof, the original East Lansing incident report is #10-20272, you can look it up because arrest records are a matter of public record. If I could post pictures to this feed I would upload it for you.

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:

Ashley Thompson · Eastern Virginia Medical School
Ben Carter. He was formally charged with assaulting me, the case was plead down to littering due to coercion and the pull of Tom Izzo on that city. The report is public record if you need proof or I'll be happy to post a copy for you.

Ashley Thompson Eastern Virginia Medical School
Joe Nemec. I did. The interview they did with me was about 6 hours long and they only showed a few minutes of it. I couldn't find an attorney in the city that wanted to take the case and go up against the high powered mouth pieces Izzo hired in his defense. He was very close with Izzo, living in his basement at the time.

Ashley Thompson Eastern Virginia Medical School
Alex Thomas. Not at all. I have no goal for this other thsn to dissapate the privileged, omnipotent culture of athletics and prevent other women from getting hurt. I was approached by espn 4 months ago after they pulled the last 10 years of police reports involving msu players and found mine from 2010. I only found out that Izzo was aware of the incident recently bc espn has a release from the judge to MSU allowing walton to travel with the team during ongoing charges. Usually you can't leave the state when you're accused of assault

Ashley Thompson · Eastern Virginia Medical School
Rob Brown. Thank you very much, hoping to dispel rumors and assumptions. The whole point of this was to expose the truth in an attempt to prevent future harm for other women. These people are ruining the point with conspiracy theories

Ashley Thompson · Eastern Virginia Medical School
The judge presiding over my case had to issue a release to let Walton travel with the team with pending charges so he could legally go out of the state. This was relased direclty to MSU athletics so I'm sure Izzo knew about it on top of the fact that Walton was living in his basement at the time. Check your facts

Ashley Thompson · Eastern Virginia Medical School
Dick Guzzo It has little to do with Nassar except MSU officials knew about all of these various accusations and charges against both him and multiple players over the past decade and managed to keep them all quiet. Silence in these situations not only promotes a culture of entitled "stars" can do harm to others with no consequence but decreases public awareness of dangerous individuals that could be avoided. I was approached by espn 4 months ago after they pulled the last 10 years of charges filled against players and found mine from 2010. Im not riding any media hype, my case was one of the first and was just swept under the rug for 8 years. I get nothing from this except public scrutiny, but it's worth it if my story can prevent future women from harm.

Ashley Thompson · Eastern Virginia Medical School
Greg Adams. I would love to see this video because that never happened. The bar did have the incident on camera, which 2 of my friends and I viewed that night to ID him, and subsequently was reported by the manager later "to not have caught that angle"

Ashley Thompson · Eastern Virginia Medical School
Rashad Targaryen-Baratheon Because I'm not a lawyer or a cop. The police report states they talked to the manager who said there was no angle and that they would investigate further but it never happened, or wasn't documented. The prosecutor just told me there was no tape, it was out of my hands. All I ever wanted was a trial or at least a hearing. It's asinine to reduce assault and battery to littering ever. If they found the accusation to be untrue they would have dismissed with no plea. There was plenty of evidence including pictures of my face, medical reports and 4 witnesses that supported my side including the bouncer that stated he overherad the crowd surrounding me on the ground he just saw me get punched

Ashley Thompson · Eastern Virginia Medical School
They*

Ashley Thompson · Eastern Virginia Medical School
Aaron Brown I never threw a drink at him. I told him to f*** off when he was hitting on me in a bar and he struck me. He never reported to the police back then that I threw a drink at him. That new fabrication just came out yesterday in his attempt to persuede the public of his "innocence"

Ashley Thompson · Eastern Virginia Medical School
Britt Bonarigo He was arrested for my assault. I'll give you a copy if you would like

Ashley Thompson · Eastern Virginia Medical School
Haha yeah, its actually me. Just wanted to see what people were saying about the whole thing. You can compare my facebook pics with my espn interview. Just for proof, the original East Lansing incident report is #10-20272, you can look it up because arrest records are a matter of public record. If I could post pictures to this feed I would upload it for you.

Da Mayor wrote:

NigelUno wrote:

I want to be very transparent about this...you're being an asshole.

Shut the fuck up.

You seem hormonal, bro.

NigelUno wrote:

Da Mayor wrote:

You seem hormonal, bro.

Just a simple recognition.

You were being an asshole, so I called you an asshole.

LooseGoose wrote:Mike Huntoon @MikeHuntoon 9m9 minutes ago
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So, with @RyanSchuiling today, Allswede walked back her allegations that sexual assaults are handled differently with athlets vs regular students and Ashley Thompson admitted that her 'Izzo runs East Lansing' allegation was complete assumption. Important stuff.