Gretchen Whitmer?

Robert J Sakimano wrote:sounds like Big Gretch is joining me in not even knowing what the new rules are.

also, if the knuckle-scrapers win the Gov race next year, Michigan will join the likes of Georgia, Florida and Texas with the racist/bigoted policies like voter suppression, christian-based education, etc.

The only thing that has saved us to this point has been decency in the executive, AG and Sec. of State offices.

I'll still vote.

kingstonlake wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:sounds like Big Gretch is joining me in not even knowing what the new rules are.

also, if the knuckle-scrapers win the Gov race next year, Michigan will join the likes of Georgia, Florida and Texas with the racist/bigoted policies like voter suppression, christian-based education, etc.

The only thing that has saved us to this point has been decency in the executive, AG and Sec. of State offices.

I'll still vote.

same.

Turtleneck wrote:

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

If trump last year issued a no golfing order, then got caught golfing, I could only imagine your posts tbh bob

Now that would be a government action I would fully support. I dream of a world with no golfing.

and the white people that participate in it.

that would be cool.

I’m not too big on genocide, Bob.

Turtleneck wrote:I’m not too big on genocide, Bob.

though white people are problematic, it was a rhetorical statement.

They could takie up other things and still drive their SUV's and wear khakis and pastels... knitting, creating sculptures with Cheez Whiz, macrame, bird watching.

Unfortunately there DEM voting demographic are better at holding their candidates accountable. Probably why they don't win consistently

A "dinner party"? At the Landshark?

Michigan Gov. Whitmer apologizes for dinner party that broke pandemic rules: ‘I am human. I made a mistake.’

kingstonlake wrote:Unfortunately there DEM voting demographic are better at holding their candidates accountable. Probably why they don't win consistently

How can you not know the rules you created? How do you not understand you are under a micro scope? Honestly, I think she did a real good job with the pandemic in Michigan, but she's really pulled some dumb moves too. She has no idea how energized she has gotten the right wing base. Mid terms are going to suck.

DWags wrote:

kingstonlake wrote:Unfortunately there DEM voting demographic are better at holding their candidates accountable. Probably why they don't win consistently

How can you not know the rules you created? How do you not understand you are under a micro scope? Honestly, I think she did a real good job with the pandemic in Michigan, but she's really pulled some dumb moves too. She has no idea how energized she has gotten the right wing base. Mid terms are going to suck.

They'd really suck for the pubs if they had to show their vaccination card to vote.

DWags wrote:

kingstonlake wrote:Unfortunately there DEM voting demographic are better at holding their candidates accountable. Probably why they don't win consistently

How can you not know the rules you created? How do you not understand you are under a micro scope? Honestly, I think she did a real good job with the pandemic in Michigan, but she's really pulled some dumb moves too. She has no idea how energized she has gotten the right wing base. Mid terms are going to suck.

I get that everyone has done something at one time or another in the last year that either violated the rules or was otherwise dumb to do. It’s been tough to maintain that standard 100% of the time.

That said- she has a staff right? I know the governor doesn’t have a presidential type staff- but there had to have been someone who could have said “hey this is a really bad idea gov”

kingstonlake wrote:Unfortunately there DEM voting demographic are better at holding their candidates accountable. Probably why they don't win consistently

it really is mind-boggling just how morally depraved the GOP is and their lack of accountability within their own ranks..

I would be willing to bet one of my heavily used bibles that the right wing knuckle-scrapers think this lapse in judgment is more revolting than the right wing plot to kidnap and murder her was.

therein lies the problem.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

Turtleneck wrote:I’m not too big on genocide, Bob.

though white people are problematic, it was a rhetorical statement.

They could takie up other things and still drive their SUV's and wear khakis and pastels... knitting, creating sculptures with Cheez Whiz, macrame, bird watching.

You can find some great pieces at galleries up north.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

kingstonlake wrote:Unfortunately there DEM voting demographic are better at holding their candidates accountable. Probably why they don't win consistently

it really is mind-boggling just how morally depraved the GOP is and their lack of accountability within their own ranks..

I would be willing to bet one of my heavily used bibles that the right wing knuckle-scrapers think this lapse in judgment is more revolting than the right wing plot to kidnap and murder her was.

therein lies the problem.

Were you thinking they were potential swing voters? I don't really care about them. They're to far gone. I'm worried about the potential.effect it has on rational people.

kingstonlake wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote: it really is mind-boggling just how morally depraved the GOP is and their lack of accountability within their own ranks..

I would be willing to bet one of my heavily used bibles that the right wing knuckle-scrapers think this lapse in judgment is more revolting than the right wing plot to kidnap and murder her was.

therein lies the problem.

Were you thinking they were potential swing voters? I don't really care about them. They're to far gone. I'm worried about the potential.effect it has on rational people.

if 'rational' people are outraged by this to the point that they're going to suddenly support a the party of racism, bigotry, misogyny, voter suppression, treason and sedition.. they're not rational.

I’m not as concerned about her losing votes as I am about her turning off Dems and firing up knuckle draggers.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

kingstonlake wrote:

Were you thinking they were potential swing voters? I don't really care about them. They're to far gone. I'm worried about the potential.effect it has on rational people.

if 'rational' people are outraged by this to the point that they're going to suddenly support a the party of racism, bigotry, misogyny, voter suppression, treason and sedition.. they're not rational.

And people who sit it out because now they like neither candidate?

kingstonlake wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
if 'rational' people are outraged by this to the point that they're going to suddenly support a the party of racism, bigotry, misogyny, voter suppression, treason and sedition.. they're not rational.

And people who sit it out because now they like neither candidate?

that's their prerogative.

America is a stupid country and we usually get what we deserve. Pretty sure I've heard that somewhere.

A friend who works in the capitol building texted me this morning about how dumb the move was. I said I’m not sure she wins a re-election. He replied, she’s dumb but her opponents are dumber.

So we got that going for us as a state.

Has she poisoned the water supply of any cities yet?

Heat Miser wrote:Has she poisoned the water supply of any cities yet?

No... But that idiot tried to keep vulnerable people alive... How fucking DARE she.

Heat Miser wrote:Has she poisoned the water supply of any cities yet?

Yes. With multiculturalism and socialism.

Heat Miser wrote:Has she poisoned the water supply of any cities yet?

No. She's worse...

She's a female who doesn't bend to hate-filled misogynists..

Heat Miser wrote:Has she poisoned the water supply of any cities yet?

No but I think she performs abortions on the front lawn of the capitol every Saturday in December in front of a nativity scene.

kingstonlake wrote:

Heat Miser wrote:Has she poisoned the water supply of any cities yet?

No but I think she performs abortions on the front lawn of the capitol every Saturday in December in front of a nativity scene.

I read it on Facebook.

kingstonlake wrote:

Heat Miser wrote:Has she poisoned the water supply of any cities yet?

No but I think she performs abortions on the front lawn of the capitol every Saturday in December in front of a nativity scene.

Serious question- is this a thing going around the conservative space? I've seen a lot of them post that liberals are killing babies, cops, and robbing stores this weekend.

msugolfguy wrote:

kingstonlake wrote:

No but I think she performs abortions on the front lawn of the capitol every Saturday in December in front of a nativity scene.

Serious question- is this a thing going around the conservative space? I've seen a lot of them post that liberals are killing babies, cops, and robbing stores this weekend.

Nothing more enjoyable than a weekend of killing babies cops and rioting.

msugolfguy wrote:

kingstonlake wrote:

No but I think she performs abortions on the front lawn of the capitol every Saturday in December in front of a nativity scene.

Serious question- is this a thing going around the conservative space? I've seen a lot of them post that liberals are killing babies, cops, and robbing stores this weekend.

Not that I'm aware of. Maybe they're killing the babies of cops? That seems more plausible.

Maybe they’re time cops killing killer cops before they grow up into killer cops.

Question for you Michigan folks. I saw Jocelyn Benson talking about this voter petition rule in Michigan where a petition with only 300K signatures (4% of voters) could make it so that a law cant be vetoed by the Gov (specifically discussed relating to the voting bills). Apart from the obvious question of why Michigan has such a ridiculous law, can't there just be a counter-petition to say the opposite? Or did the idiots who enacted this petition law not want something logical included?

MiamiSpartan wrote:Question for you Michigan folks. I saw Jocelyn Benson talking about this voter petition rule in Michigan where a petition with only 300K signatures (4% of voters) could make it so that a law cant be vetoed by the Gov (specifically discussed relating to the voting bills). Apart from the obvious question of why Michigan has such a ridiculous law, can't there just be a counter-petition to say the opposite? Or did the idiots who enacted this petition law not want something logical included?

It's just another of the garbage bills the lameduck repubs pushed through at the end of their last session to protect their role in governing. They're trying to protect their government of the politicians, for the politicians and damn the citizens, let the minority rule. I assume they're going to try and use it with their anti-voting bills and they're doing their best to get the Redistricting Commission to be null and void. The republicans in this country are launching a full out assault on democracy and they don't care who gets in the way.

“Small government” Republicans only want small government when Democrats are holding executive branch office and/or the GOP in in the minority.

We are seeing a return to the 1890’s Gilded Age.

tGreenWay wrote:Detroit PD Chief James Craig expected to announce his retirement Monday in order to run in the Republican primary to decide who goes up against Gov. Whitmer.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2021/05/07/detroit-police-chief-james-craig-resign/4995380001/

Craig's first speech.

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Floyd Robertson wrote:

tGreenWay wrote:Detroit PD Chief James Craig expected to announce his retirement Monday in order to run in the Republican primary to decide who goes up against Gov. Whitmer.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2021/05/07/detroit-police-chief-james-craig-resign/4995380001/

Craig's first speech.

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He seems to be a full-on RWNJ. Funny how the Trumpy GOP always includes Detroit as one of those shithole big cities run by lefties, along with NYC, Chi, SF, et al. Do they continue to attack Detroit, knowing Craig was in charge of the police for the past eight years?

I'm comforted by the fact he's "pro-freedom".

Floyd Robertson wrote:

tGreenWay wrote:Detroit PD Chief James Craig expected to announce his retirement Monday in order to run in the Republican primary to decide who goes up against Gov. Whitmer.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2021/05/07/detroit-police-chief-james-craig-resign/4995380001/

Craig's first speech.

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If he was pro freedom he would not have been a fucking police officer. There is also no other profession that plays victim better than police.

Floyd Robertson wrote:

tGreenWay wrote:Detroit PD Chief James Craig expected to announce his retirement Monday in order to run in the Republican primary to decide who goes up against Gov. Whitmer.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2021/05/07/detroit-police-chief-james-craig-resign/4995380001/

Craig's first speech.

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does the republican party whine about everything?

Turtleneck wrote:

Floyd Robertson wrote:

Craig's first speech.

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If he was pro freedom he would not have been a fucking police officer. There is also no other profession that plays victim better than police.

When did Cameron take over Turtlenecks account.

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lol, nice use of recall loophole to amass warchest.

Floyd Robertson wrote:[tw]1420377127380299786[/tw]

lol, nice use of recall loophole to amass warchest.

Perfect.

Just drove 94 from DTW to 16 mile road to Groesbeck to Cass to 19 mile road. Pothole count - zero. Thanks Big Gretch!