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Post by PennSpartan 16/07/24, 09:00 am

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You can also thank RBG. She refused to step down during Obama’s terms. But Hillary and Bernie fighting like two cops over a donut while the cashier is being robbed sealed the deal.

Your blaming Clinton for the Sander's campaign, now?

Not getting that at all, and of course years ago you just blamed Sanders.

I blame both of them. It was a cluster f#&%.
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Post by PennSpartan 16/07/24, 09:03 am

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No it was 100% Hillary’s fault stop sending blame for things down and hold your leaders to account for their fuck ups that will help build a stronger party instead of the Charmin soft one we’ve created

The Republicans have been working to put judges on the federal courts who will do their bidding for over 40 years. If you simpletons are really blaming one election, you are the reason they succeeded.
Why aren’t the Dems doing this? Republicans focus on big ticket items like the courts and Roe, while Dems focus on Student Debt Forgiveness. Nobody will even remember that ten years from now.
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Post by Jake from State Farm 16/07/24, 09:10 am

PennSpartan wrote:
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The Republicans have been working to put judges on the federal courts who will do their bidding for over 40 years. If you simpletons are really blaming one election, you are the reason they succeeded.
Why aren’t the Dems doing this? Republicans focus on big ticket items like the courts and Roe, while Dems focus on Student Debt Forgiveness. Nobody will even remember that ten years from now.

Democrats haven't been sitting on their hands when it comes to appointing judges.

As of July 8, 2024, the United States Senate has confirmed 202 Article III judges nominated by Biden: one associate justice of the Supreme Court of the United States, 43 judges for the United States courts of appeals, 156 judges for the United States district courts and two judges for the United States Court of International Trade. Clinton Appointed 378 and Obama 329, Trump 234

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Post by Trapper Gus 16/07/24, 09:10 am

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
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The Republicans have been working to put judges on the federal courts who will do their bidding for over 40 years.   If you simpletons are really blaming one election, you are the reason they succeeded.
Trapper Gus and his ilk will say anything to absolve the worst fuck up of a generation instead of confronting it and learning from mistakes which is why we always end up fucking up despite being the more popular party by a fairly wide margin

Wrong as always.

I'm not going to waste my time going back and identifying the political affiliations of the Supreme Court Justices, however, I'm pretty sure that from sometime in the 1950's it has had a majority of Republican Justices.

What it didn't have were Justices who were in the pockets of radical conservatives and making decisions designed to overthrow the Constitutional balance.

However, it took 3 Republican Presidents, one elected by the Justice from Arizona who wanted her successor selected by a Republican President, and the radical rights frustration with Republican appointed Justices ruling on the law, not on what the radical right wanted to be the law, to reach the point that the court is now packed with radicals.

Clinton losing to Trump and McConnell maneuvering finished getting the majority of 5 (not 6 so blaming RGB is stupid) radicals on the court, but it started with GHWB appointing Thomas.


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Post by sεяεηιτλ 16/07/24, 09:18 am

Green money wrote:
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It would save our country. I don't even recognize our country anymore
go to CA or NY and try to recognize what a cesspool they are. Illegals everywhere and you're paying for them.

Ive been to both, both are fine and you are an extremely dumb individual
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Post by PennSpartan 16/07/24, 09:19 am

Trapper Gus wrote:
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Trapper Gus and his ilk will say anything to absolve the worst fuck up of a generation instead of confronting it and learning from mistakes which is why we always end up fucking up despite being the more popular party by a fairly wide margin

Wrong as always.

I'm not going to waste my time going back and identifying the political affiliations of the Supreme Court Justices, however, I'm pretty sure that from sometime in the 1950's it has had a majority of Republican Justices.

What it didn't have were Justices who were in the pockets of radical conservatives and making decisions designed to overthrow the Constitutional balance.

However, it took 3 Republican Presidents, one elected by the Justice from Arizona who wanted her successor selected by a Republican President, and the radical rights frustration with Republican appointed Justices ruling on the law, not on what the radical right wanted to be the law, to reach the point that the court is now packed with radicals.

Clinton losing to Trump and McConnell maneuvering finished getting the majority of 5 (not 6 so blaming RGB is stupid) radicals on the court, but it started with GHWB appointing Thomas.
I believe Joe Biden was chair of the committee that presided over the Clarence Thomas nomination. Not his finest moment. Ask Anita Hill. The Supreme Court - Page 8 502811600 The Supreme Court - Page 8 502811600
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Post by Trapper Gus 16/07/24, 09:30 am

PennSpartan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

Wrong as always.

I'm not going to waste my time going back and identifying the political affiliations of the Supreme Court Justices, however, I'm pretty sure that from sometime in the 1950's it has had a majority of Republican Justices.

What it didn't have were Justices who were in the pockets of radical conservatives and making decisions designed to overthrow the Constitutional balance.

However, it took 3 Republican Presidents, one elected by the Justice from Arizona who wanted her successor selected by a Republican President, and the radical rights frustration with Republican appointed Justices ruling on the law, not on what the radical right wanted to be the law, to reach the point that the court is now packed with radicals.

Clinton losing to Trump and McConnell maneuvering finished getting the majority of 5 (not 6 so blaming RGB is stupid) radicals on the court, but it started with GHWB appointing Thomas.
I believe Joe Biden was chair of the committee that presided over the Clarence Thomas nomination. Not his finest moment. Ask Anita Hill. The Supreme Court - Page 8 502811600 The Supreme Court - Page 8 502811600

Do we blame the Senators who deferred to the President's choice, or the President who chose that choice, and hid Thomas's failures, to forward a radical agenda?

Yes, Biden carries some blame for voting to put a very flawed person on the court, but not him alone.

There were other Senators on the Judicial Committee and then a full vote of the Senate.

Biden is a product of his time in politics. On the good side that means he was able to push more good legislation through Congress than anyone since LBJ and will razor thin majorities. On the bad side, he will compromise to get things done and sometimes those compromises are not very good, but that is how politics works.

Are you going from trying to blame Clinton & Sanders, only, to trying to blame Biden, only, for the makeup of the court?

As I said, the radical right has been working on this for 35 years.
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Post by PennSpartan 16/07/24, 09:50 am

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PennSpartan wrote:
I believe Joe Biden was chair of the committee that presided over the Clarence Thomas nomination. Not his finest moment. Ask Anita Hill. The Supreme Court - Page 8 502811600 The Supreme Court - Page 8 502811600

Do we blame the Senators who deferred to the President's choice, or the President who chose that choice, and hid Thomas's failures, to forward a radical agenda?

Yes, Biden carries some blame for voting to put a very flawed person on the court, but not him alone.

There were other Senators on the Judicial Committee and then a full vote of the Senate.

Biden is a product of his time in politics. On the good side that means he was able to push more good legislation through Congress than anyone since LBJ and will razor thin majorities. On the bad side, he will compromise to get things done and sometimes those compromises are not very good, but that is how politics works.

Are you going from trying to blame Clinton & Sanders, only, to trying to blame Biden, only, for the makeup of the court?

As I said, the radical right has been working on this for 35 years.
I blame Democrats. They are terrible at planning. Republicans have been laser focused on things like abortion and gun rights and taxes for most of my life. Democrats are all over the place. Remember Medicare for All in 2016? You don’t even hear Bernie talking about that anymore. Pick a half dozen issues and pursue them relentlessly for the next 40 years. Then you might see results.
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Post by Trapper Gus 16/07/24, 10:08 am

PennSpartan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

Do we blame the Senators who deferred to the President's choice, or the President who chose that choice, and hid Thomas's failures, to forward a radical agenda?

Yes, Biden carries some blame for voting to put a very flawed person on the court, but not him alone.  

There were other Senators on the Judicial Committee and then a full vote of the Senate.

Biden is a product of his time in politics.  On the good side that means he was able to push more good legislation through Congress than anyone since LBJ and will razor thin majorities.  On the bad side, he will compromise to get things done and sometimes those compromises are not very good, but that is how politics works.

Are you going from trying to blame Clinton & Sanders, only, to trying to blame Biden, only, for the makeup of the court?

As I said, the radical right has been working on this for 35 years.
I blame Democrats.  They are terrible at planning.  Republicans have been laser focused on things like abortion and gun rights and taxes for most of my life.  Democrats are all over the place.  Remember Medicare for All in 2016?  You don’t even hear Bernie talking about that anymore.  Pick a half dozen issues and pursue them relentlessly for the next 40 years.  Then you might see results.  

I blame the voters.

Unless the Democratics get a blue wave with the power to reign in the courts we are already in "game over" for a government that represents even some little part of the will of the majority.

tSCOTUS is dismantling all of the power of Congress & the President which the billionaires dislike and placing it in their own hands.

As for the differences in the parties, the major one is that the Republicans want to shut down the federal government, and do not care if they can't get things passed in Congress.  This is a much easier task than getting things passed.

Senator Sanders, and Senator Warran still support MFA, and the people still trust the Democratic Party on health care more than the Republicans, however, this election is not the time.  Maybe if we get my "blue wave" it will be.


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Post by kingstonlake 16/07/24, 10:08 am

PennSpartan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

Do we blame the Senators who deferred to the President's choice, or the President who chose that choice, and hid Thomas's failures, to forward a radical agenda?

Yes, Biden carries some blame for voting to put a very flawed person on the court, but not him alone.

There were other Senators on the Judicial Committee and then a full vote of the Senate.

Biden is a product of his time in politics. On the good side that means he was able to push more good legislation through Congress than anyone since LBJ and will razor thin majorities. On the bad side, he will compromise to get things done and sometimes those compromises are not very good, but that is how politics works.

Are you going from trying to blame Clinton & Sanders, only, to trying to blame Biden, only, for the makeup of the court?

As I said, the radical right has been working on this for 35 years.
I blame Democrats. They are terrible at planning. Republicans have been laser focused on things like abortion and gun rights and taxes for most of my life. Democrats are all over the place. Remember Medicare for All in 2016? You don’t even hear Bernie talking about that anymore. Pick a half dozen issues and pursue them relentlessly for the next 40 years. Then you might see results.

Do you know how easy it is to be a republican and be laser focused on two things? When you base consistently votes against their interests because they’re politically illiterate? When they are basically bigoted and racist? It’s soooo freaking easy….

No offense but you’re the perfect example of why it’s hard to be a Democrat. You’re laser focused on a couple issues and not the greater good.
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Post by PennSpartan 16/07/24, 10:20 am

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I blame Democrats. They are terrible at planning. Republicans have been laser focused on things like abortion and gun rights and taxes for most of my life. Democrats are all over the place. Remember Medicare for All in 2016? You don’t even hear Bernie talking about that anymore. Pick a half dozen issues and pursue them relentlessly for the next 40 years. Then you might see results.

Do you know how easy it is to be a republican and be laser focused on two things? When you base consistently votes against their interests because they’re politically illiterate? When they are basically bigoted and racist? It’s soooo freaking easy….

No offense but you’re the perfect example of why it’s hard to be a Democrat. You’re laser focused on a couple issues and not the greater good.
The greater good is different things to different people. You might want student debt forgiveness. That doesn’t help me. I might want lower taxes for seniors. That doesn’t help Cameron. Republicans picked a few things and never took their foot off the gas. And they are succeeding on those issues. I think most of their base supports their stance on abortion, guns, and taxes. Even if it doesn’t really benefit them.
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Post by Trapper Gus 16/07/24, 10:43 am

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Do you know how easy it is to be a republican and be laser focused on two things? When you base consistently votes against their interests because they’re politically illiterate? When they are basically bigoted and racist? It’s soooo freaking easy….

No offense but you’re the perfect example of why it’s hard to be a Democrat. You’re laser focused on a couple issues and not the greater good.
The greater good is different things to different people. You might want student debt forgiveness. That doesn’t help me. I might want lower taxes for seniors. That doesn’t help Cameron. Republicans picked a few things and never took their foot off the gas. And they are succeeding on those issues. I think most of their base supports their stance on abortion, guns, and taxes. Even if it doesn’t really benefit them.

The Republicans only have one focus. More power for the billionaires. Everything else is window dressing to pull in voters.

Taxes, sure, tax cuts for billionaires...

Guns - done by the courts...

Abortion- done by the courts

So the only thing Republicans have had a positive agenda on and succeeded is taxes

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Post by kingstonlake 16/07/24, 10:43 am

PennSpartan wrote:
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Do you know how easy it is to be a republican and be laser focused on two things?  When you base consistently votes against their interests because they’re politically illiterate? When they are basically bigoted and racist? It’s soooo freaking easy….

No offense but you’re the perfect example of why it’s hard to be a Democrat. You’re laser focused on a couple issues and not the greater good.
The greater good is different things to different people.  You might want student debt forgiveness.  That doesn’t help me.  I might want lower taxes for seniors.  That doesn’t help Cameron.  Republicans picked a few things and never took their foot off the gas.  And they are succeeding on those issues.  I think most of their base supports their stance on abortion, guns, and taxes.  Even if it doesn’t really benefit them.

That’s kinda my point. Not everything in a platform will be a benefit for you. But to get what you want you have to also be ok with things that might not necessarily benefit you. Young progressives don’t benefit from you or people like you getting increased benefits at your age. But to get what they want they have to be ok with it. It’s a give and take (greater good).
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Post by PennSpartan 16/07/24, 10:56 am

kingstonlake wrote:
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The greater good is different things to different people.  You might want student debt forgiveness.  That doesn’t help me.  I might want lower taxes for seniors.  That doesn’t help Cameron.  Republicans picked a few things and never took their foot off the gas.  And they are succeeding on those issues.  I think most of their base supports their stance on abortion, guns, and taxes.  Even if it doesn’t really benefit them.

That’s kinda my point. Not everything in a platform will be a benefit for you. But to get what you want you have to also be ok with things that might not necessarily benefit you. Young progressives don’t benefit from you or people like you getting increased benefits at your age. But to get what they want they have to be ok with it. It’s a give and take (greater good).
I guess we’ll see which strategy works come November.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 16/07/24, 10:57 am

Trapper Gus wrote:
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Trapper Gus and his ilk will say anything to absolve the worst fuck up of a generation instead of confronting it and learning from mistakes which is why we always end up fucking up despite being the more popular party by a fairly wide margin

Wrong as always.

I'm not going to waste my time going back and identifying the political affiliations of the Supreme Court Justices, however, I'm pretty sure that from sometime in the 1950's it has had a majority of Republican Justices.

What it didn't have were Justices who were in the pockets of radical conservatives and making decisions designed to overthrow the Constitutional balance.

However, it took 3 Republican Presidents, one elected by the Justice from Arizona who wanted her successor selected by a Republican President, and the radical rights frustration with Republican appointed Justices ruling on the law, not on what the radical right wanted to be the law, to reach the point that the court is now packed with radicals.

Clinton losing to Trump and McConnell maneuvering finished getting the majority of 5 (not 6 so blaming RGB is stupid) radicals on the court, but it started with GHWB appointing Thomas.
I’m not talking about Supreme Court justices trapped I don’t give a shit about what Penn originally posted, I’m talking about your insistence on constantly absolving Hillary of all of her failures and blaming other people instead of admitting she ran a shitty campaign and was as such a shitty candidate
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Post by Trapper Gus 16/07/24, 11:32 am

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
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Wrong as always.

I'm not going to waste my time going back and identifying the political affiliations of the Supreme Court Justices, however, I'm pretty sure that from sometime in the 1950's it has had a majority of Republican Justices.

What it didn't have were Justices who were in the pockets of radical conservatives and making decisions designed to overthrow the Constitutional balance.

However, it took 3 Republican Presidents, one elected by the Justice from Arizona who wanted her successor selected by a Republican President, and the radical rights frustration with Republican appointed Justices ruling on the law, not on what the radical right wanted to be the law, to reach the point that the court is now packed with radicals.

Clinton losing to Trump and McConnell maneuvering finished getting the majority of 5 (not 6 so blaming RGB is stupid) radicals on the court, but it started with GHWB appointing Thomas.
I’m not talking about Supreme Court justices trapped I don’t give a shit about what Penn originally posted, I’m talking about your insistence on constantly absolving Hillary of all of her failures and blaming other people instead of admitting she ran a shitty campaign and was as such a shitty candidate

Generally, when I'm posting about her, it is in response to people who keep saying what you just said, which is further over the top in the other direction.

As for her campaign, it totally screwed up in the swing states, and Mark Penn is a total screw up as a campaign manager, who relied on outdated information.

As for Clinton as a candidate, she received 7 million more votes than Trump, just in the wrong states, which is a campaign issue.

IMO her campaign also suffered from the front runner status, where they didn't see the need for an up to data GOTV effort in swing states, because everyone, even the Trump campaign, "knew" she was going to win.  This also affected the voters, who felt free to vote third party candidates because they wanted a protest vote and they "knew" she would win, anyway.

I generally try to point out the facts, but there are people, who for some reason have very negative feelings about her, who take that as defending, as opposed to explaining.

In the internet age many of the people have become emotionally jaded into looking at everything as an argument.

Sometimes the data is the data, the facts are the facts, and people opinions are not involved.


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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 16/07/24, 02:36 pm

Who was the top person in charge of the campaign trapper
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Post by Trapper Gus 16/07/24, 04:33 pm

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Who was the top person in charge of the campaign trapper

Clinton, of course.

Your point being she hired Mark Penn.  It doesn't mean she signed off on everything he did, nor does it matter.

Her campaign made some poor assumptions.

Already said that.

Just want to point out that I am reply to your posts because you are asking me questions.

I didn't open this discussion of the 2016 election, nor was Penn doing more than saying Clinton & Sanders fighting for the nomination split the party was was another factor in the Democratic Party losing that election.

Same thing mat be happening now with the Party splitting regarding Biden
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Post by kingstonlake 17/07/24, 09:15 am

Oh look. Someone who has no clue on how to count votes in the senate.

https://www.npr.org/2024/07/16/nx-s1-5042496/biden-supreme-court
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Post by Trapper Gus 17/07/24, 09:25 am

kingstonlake wrote:Oh look. Someone who has no clue on how to count votes in the senate.

https://www.npr.org/2024/07/16/nx-s1-5042496/biden-supreme-court

Congress can do quite a bit without a Constitutional Admendment...

Create a code of ethics with enforcement of the same...

Exempt Acts of Congress from Judicial Review...

Define "Good Behavior" and require Judges to recluse themselves from judging if they don't meet that standard?...
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Trapper Gus wrote:The Supreme Court - Page 8 Scree281
Can you lecture us more on internet literacy please I feel like I need one of those
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Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
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Can you lecture us more on internet literacy please I feel like I need one of those

You are the one who started this "you don't understand the internet stuff", so look in the mirror.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 17/07/24, 09:44 am

TravelinMan wrote:If you can't win the game, change the rules.   The Supreme Court - Page 8 502811600  

and if you can't win elections, launch a violent attack on the Capitol in an attempt to overthrow democracy.

it's shocking to see that the christian MAGA folks are upset by Biden's plan. The Supreme Court - Page 8 502811600
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TravelinMan wrote:If you can't win the game, change the rules. The Supreme Court - Page 8 502811600


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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 17/07/24, 09:52 am

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Can you lecture us more on internet literacy please I feel like I need one of those

You are the one who started this "you don't understand the internet stuff", so look in the mirror.
Okay I’ll give the lecture fine.

There’s a reason why most polls say “total votes” and it usually appears right around where you cropped it
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Post by sεяεηιτλ 17/07/24, 10:02 am

TravelinMan wrote:If you can't win the game, change the rules. The Supreme Court - Page 8 502811600


The Republican/libertarian playbook for years. Throw in find every loophole and create dozens of dozens of lawsuits to get before your packed scotus that, according to the rules, should have 1 less corrupt "conservative" than we have now.
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Post by Trapper Gus 17/07/24, 10:02 am

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
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You are the one who started this "you don't understand the internet stuff", so look in the mirror.
Okay I’ll give the lecture fine.

There’s a reason why most polls say “total votes” and it usually appears right around where you cropped it

It was 93 votes, I when back and checked...

You may have noticed on the internets that having 93 people agree on anything is unusual.
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Post by TravelinMan 17/07/24, 10:13 am

Trapper Gus wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Okay I’ll give the lecture fine.

There’s a reason why most polls say “total votes” and it usually appears right around where you cropped it

It was 93 votes, I when back and checked...

You may have noticed on the internets that having 93 people agree on anything is unusual.

We'll just take your word on that. The Supreme Court - Page 8 502811600
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Post by Trapper Gus 17/07/24, 10:18 am

TravelinMan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

It was 93 votes, I when back and checked...

You may have noticed on the internets that having 93 people agree on anything is unusual.

We'll just take your word on that. The Supreme Court - Page 8 502811600

Nope, you know it, but just want to try to score points.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 17/07/24, 11:06 am

TravelinMan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

It was 93 votes, I when back and checked...

You may have noticed on the internets that having 93 people agree on anything is unusual.

We'll just take your word on that.   The Supreme Court - Page 8 502811600
No links, he doesn’t want us to know it came from www.joebidenismydaddyandilovehim.edu
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Post by Trapper Gus 17/07/24, 11:28 am

You guys hardly ever provide links to back up your silly internet driven emotional posts...

I provide links for most of my wise and thoughtful factual driven posts, including now two polls on this topic.

You guys are lightweight posters...


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/7/17/2254524/-Cheers-and-Jeers-Wednesday
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Post by Trapper Gus 25/07/24, 10:12 am

The court ruling regarding regulatory agencies not being able to issue regulations is bear fruit.

https://apnews.com/article/rural-access-broadband-universal-service-fund-6b4027a3a01a6c948405a8d3d85ea5e4
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Post by Trapper Gus 29/07/24, 10:15 am

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden has unveiled a long-awaited proposal for changes at the U.S. Supreme Court, calling on Congress to establish term limits and an enforceable ethics code for the court’s nine justices. He’s also pressing lawmakers to ratify a constitutional amendment limiting presidential immunity.

The White House on Monday detailed the contours of Biden’s court proposal, one that appears to have little chance of being approved by a closely divided Congress with just 99 days to go before Election Day.

Still, Democrats hope it’ll help focus voters as they consider their choices in a tight election. The likely Democratic nominee, Vice President Kamala Harris, who has sought to frame her race against Republican ex-President Donald Trump as “a choice between freedom and chaos,” said the court’s fairness had been called into question following recent decisions.

https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-reform-biden-harris-trump-ffd48f3a2023aeca841bb53c2147ef03

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Post by DWags 29/07/24, 11:30 am

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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden has unveiled a long-awaited proposal for changes at the U.S. Supreme Court, calling on Congress to establish term limits and an enforceable ethics code for the court’s nine justices. He’s also pressing lawmakers to ratify a constitutional amendment limiting presidential immunity.

The White House on Monday detailed the contours of Biden’s court proposal, one that appears to have little chance of being approved by a closely divided Congress with just 99 days to go before Election Day.

Still, Democrats hope it’ll help focus voters as they consider their choices in a tight election. The likely Democratic nominee, Vice President Kamala Harris, who has sought to frame her race against Republican ex-President Donald Trump as “a choice between freedom and chaos,” said the court’s fairness had been called into question following recent decisions.

https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-reform-biden-harris-trump-ffd48f3a2023aeca841bb53c2147ef03





Johnson says it’s dead on arrival.

Please vote blue on the whole ticket and get these corrupt mother fuckers out of our lives.
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Post by Jake from State Farm 29/07/24, 12:50 pm

DWags wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-reform-biden-harris-trump-ffd48f3a2023aeca841bb53c2147ef03





Johnson says it’s dead on arrival.

Please vote blue on the whole ticket and get these corrupt mother fuckers out of our lives.

Of course it is, the only change the republicans would like to see with the Supreme Court is that they all be appointed by republicans.
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Post by Rick Saunders 29/07/24, 02:43 pm

DWags wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-reform-biden-harris-trump-ffd48f3a2023aeca841bb53c2147ef03





Johnson says it’s dead on arrival.

Please vote blue on the whole ticket and get these corrupt mother fuckers out of our lives.


It should be advertised heavily that these proposals are being brought by democrats but do not and are not designed to bring advantage to democrats. That's the point of good governance. Doing what is right for constituents and the country and not what is personally best for candidates or parties. Who is doing that and who is not.
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Post by Trapper Gus 30/07/24, 07:44 am

Rick Saunders wrote:
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Johnson says it’s dead on arrival.

Please vote blue on the whole ticket and get these corrupt mother fuckers out of our lives.


It should be advertised heavily that these proposals are being brought by democrats but do not and are not designed to bring advantage to democrats. That's the point of good governance. Doing what is right for constituents and the country and not what is personally best for candidates or parties. Who is doing that and who is not.

It is typical that the Democratics try to propose fair legislation and the Republicans try to stop it, but if they can't they try to say it is partisan and use that attack to tilt the resulting law in their favor.
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Post by Trapper Gus 31/07/24, 08:09 am

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Bob, it is polls like this which show a majority of Americans want fairness and feity to ideals which give me a glimmer of hope about Americans.
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