Mike Valenti 2020

kingstonlake wrote:

steveschneider wrote:Valenti is a play for national championships or bust type of guy. Anything less and he's miserable. My core belief is that's an unrealistic expectation and he'd probably be happier following a blue blood with unlimited resources, top rated recruiting classes and cupcake schedules.

If he followed a blue blood or worked in a successful professional sports team market he'd lose 85% of his material. He cant do positive radio.

He might be alright in NYC with the Knicks, Mets, Jets and Giants. The again some of his stuff is cringe worthy, like today he commented 'Dantonio showed his ass'...the last time I listened he was obsessing over the size Nick Foled dick with Sullivan. He's pretty gross and not in a clever way. I don't think a big time station would take it.

steveschneider wrote:

kingstonlake wrote:

If he followed a blue blood or worked in a successful professional sports team market he'd lose 85% of his material. He cant do positive radio.

He might be alright in NYC with the Knicks, Mets, Jets and Giants. The again some of his stuff is cringe worthy, like today he commented 'Dantonio showed his ass'...the last time I listened he was obsessing over the size Nick Foled dick with Sullivan. He's pretty gross and not in a clever way. I don't think a big time station would take it.

He's definitely an acquired taste. Not for everyone.

He’s a sports talk radio host. What do we really expect from the guy?

NigelUno wrote:

steveschneider wrote:He makes a point, how are we going to recruit on the offenseive side of the ball? What big recruit in 2019 is going to want to ply for a team that’s putting 6 to 7 points a game?

Dobbs and Barnett didn't seem to have a problem with it.

Hey, cool! That’s two. Remind me again how many players line up on offense? Is it two?

tGreenWay wrote:

NigelUno wrote:

Dobbs and Barnett didn't seem to have a problem with it.  

Hey, cool! That’s two. Remind me again how many players line up on offense? Is it two?

That's all we need man, did you watch the game this past Saturday? We are FINE!

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

tGreenWay wrote:


Hey, cool! That’s two. Remind me again how many players line up on offense? Is it two?

That's all we need man, did you watch the game this past Saturday? We are FINE!

Yep. I watched and thought of all the Offensive recruits who did not come to MSU, including some we really, really wanted and some who were called MSU locks by people who should know better.

After watching the ASU game, I’ve come to the conclusion some (not all) of the players we’ve recruited for the O line are pussies. Injury-prone, no drive to win, chicken-hearted pussies. Simple as that.

tGreenWay wrote:

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

That's all we need man, did you watch the game this past Saturday? We are FINE!

Yep. I watched and thought of all the Offensive recruits who did not come to MSU, including some we really, really wanted and some who were called MSU locks by people who should know better.

After watching the ASU game, I’ve come to the conclusion some (not all) of the players we’ve recruited for the O line are pussies. Injury-prone, no drive to win, chicken-hearted pussies. Simple as that.

And all this time I thought I cared more about the team than you and OTPT. Wow. You two are more triggered than an old football geek like me.

The things you learn.

"Fuck this. Fuck this. Fuck. This."

DWags wrote:

tGreenWay wrote:


Yep. I watched and thought of all the Offensive recruits who did not come to MSU, including some we really, really wanted and some who were called MSU locks by people who should know better.

After watching the ASU game, I’ve come to the conclusion some (not all) of the players we’ve recruited for the O line are pussies. Injury-prone, no drive to win, chicken-hearted pussies. Simple as that.

And all this time I thought I cared more about the team than you and OTPT.   Wow.  You two are more triggered than an old football geek like me.

The things you learn.  

...and the award for the most rambling, triggered post game message board post goes to...DWags for "Character and Performance: The Success and Failure of MSU Football in 2019"

https://spartanswill.forumotion.com/t20942-captain-sunshine-view#640677

The runner up award goes to...DWags for "The Truth in Abstract Form"

https://spartanswill.forumotion.com/t20940p80-tofficial-i-hate-the-fucking-sun-devils-game-thread#640414

That manifesto about running catching and blocking. Anyone else says a few sentences about how bad the team is and they are triggered and care too much. Rich.

...in third place...are you fucking kidding me...DWags for "Tough Love and Difficult Discussions." This is a clean sweep of the I Was Super Emotional After a Loss and Now Want To Pretend I Was the Calm One Awards by poster DWags. Congrats to DWags.

https://spartanswill.forumotion.com/t20940p240-tofficial-i-hate-the-fucking-sun-devils-game-thread#640557

You guys are way too wound up still. It’s monday. Two days later. Let it go.

I’m watching the Brady Bunch House renovation on HGTV. I’m over it.

DWags wrote:

tGreenWay wrote:


Yep. I watched and thought of all the Offensive recruits who did not come to MSU, including some we really, really wanted and some who were called MSU locks by people who should know better.

After watching the ASU game, I’ve come to the conclusion some (not all) of the players we’ve recruited for the O line are pussies. Injury-prone, no drive to win, chicken-hearted pussies. Simple as that.

And all this time I thought I cared more about the team than you and OTPT. Wow. You two are more triggered than an old football geek like me.

The things you learn.

Not triggered, DWags, just plenty disgusted. It’s a game. It will always only be a game. I slept like a baby that night. Woke up the next day happy and calm. Didn’t kick the dog or bitchslap the neighbor. But, I’ve given this offense a lot of rope over the past couple of years, recognizing that injuries are a part of the game; recognizing we were hit horrendously, spectacularly hard last season. But here it is again and basically it’s the same small cast of characters unable to play, with their backups unable to execute. Reality is, some of these guys don’t deserve the scholarships they’re getting and ought to be Harbaughed. Then again, because the coaches can’t recruit for shit on offense, there’s very few bodies to replace them. The coaches are the biggest part to blame in all this, but that’s a different discussion for another time. The real rub is MD is the best coach the program has ever employed, and he’s at or near the very top of list of college coaches... on the defensive side of the ball. It’s an entirely different story with the offense, and his refusal to make changes, including a blind loyalty to his staff has long term, program-affecting implications that might be felt in the two, three, maybe four or more years beyond his retirement. Whichever coach replaces MD will have to start nearly from scratch on offense because of the players MD and his coaches have brought in.
The truth is, I haven’t been this disgusted with the program since I stood on the bleachers and booed our loss to Northwestern in Muddy’s last year. That’s how I see the offensive portion of this football program right now. Dantonio cant be called a great coach. He’s half a great coach, but the pesky problem is, when you’re head coach, you have to make sure both your defense and your offense is getting the job done. MD isn’t doing that, and I’m done letting him slide.

Pardon my unedited stream of consciousness here.
/diatribe

I couldn’t even watch the game d wags

I appreciate that post. Better than just bitching to bitch.

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

That manifesto about running catching and blocking. Anyone else says a few sentences about how bad the team is and they are triggered and care too much. Rich.

I loved the odd mentions of peeing in the living room and dating.

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote: I couldn’t even watch the game d wags

I’m sorry

what's going on in here?

Nordic wrote: what's going on in here?

D wags doesn’t like other people ripping the football team (after doing it 2 days ago) so he’s using the you care too much card as a defense mechanism. Humans are complex, man.

DWags wrote:You guys are way too wound up still. It’s monday. Two days later. Let it go.

The post I made above came from something I thought about as the game ended. It’s not so much I can’t let it go, it’s that I didn’t express myself Saturday night, so here are my thoughts, so I can, you know, let it go.

tGreenWay wrote:

DWags wrote:You guys are way too wound up still. It’s monday. Two days later. Let it go.

The post I made above came from something I thought about as the game ended. It’s not so much I can’t let it go, it’s that I didn’t express myself Saturday night, so here are my thoughts, so I can, you know, let it go.

Nice.

I do my best work while drunk right after the game.

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

Nordic wrote: what's going on in here?

D wags doesn’t like other people ripping the football team (after doing it 2 days ago) so he’s using the you care too much card as a defense mechanism. Humans are complex, man.

Why do you say that? I’m just concerned you carry the anger too long. But whatever makes you feel better. I’m for a mentally healthy OTPT.

Nordic wrote: what's going on in here?

Valenti is causing shit again.

tGreenWay wrote:

NigelUno wrote:

Dobbs and Barnett didn't seem to have a problem with it.

Hey, cool! That’s two. Remind me again how many players line up on offense? Is it two?

I was kind of referring to the "what big recruit" part...and listed 2 "big" recruits in that class.

Still pretty sure it's 11 on offense.

If you run through the 2019 class...

OL: 1Dobbs, 2Brown, 3Samac, 4Duplain, 5Kaylor
WR/TE: 6Barnett, 7Morgan, 8Mosley,
RB: 9Williams, 10Wright
QB: 11Thorne
+ Reed (transfer WR)

Generally, you'd mix guys from 4/5 classes to get a starting line up though.

Anything else?

Will be tuning in at 2PM.

Make plays!

steveschneider wrote:Will be tuning in at 2PM.

What do you think he'll say?

steve I think something is missing in your life.

I remember when he buried Izzo.  "Like it or not, the program has crashed" or something like that.  Absolutely buried him.  Brutal. He even wrote about the demise of Izzo and the program on the other board.  

Oh, and the same jack asses who are upset about Dantonio and the state of the team were cheering Valenti on back then with Izzo.  Will they admit it?  No way.  But there they were.  

Whatever, it's all entertainment.   However, Our fan base is as stupid as any fanbase in the country, and far dumber than uofm's.  So, it will be brutal today.  I want to text or call in and ask him if he remembers when he buried Izzo, but no way am I listening to it today.  (probably be mostly lions/packers today, tomorrow will be bury Dantonio).  

We always get what we deserve in life.   We as a collective MSU community will deserve exactly what we are about to get.   Enjoy the show.

He will bury scum and MSU. Hard to argue they’re both not a mess right now.

Oh, and I guarantee the dumbasses will say, "Izzo listened to us" that's why he turned it around.

If you dare, go over to TOB and see who they're suggesting we bring in as a coach. "Give Saban all the money he wants", Bring in an Iowa State Coach who has asperations for the NFL.

Fucking Fleck

Whatever.

kingstonlake wrote:He will bury scum and MSU. Hard to argue they’re both not a mess right now.

Yeah, we were dumb not to fire Izzo when he buried him. We should have listened to the dumb asses who agreed with Valenti back then. Who did they want? Larry Brown? Pop? I get it, it's entertainment. Enjoy the show today.

DWags wrote:Oh, and I guarantee the dumbasses will say, "Izzo listened to us" that's why he turned it around.

If you dare, go over to TOB and see who they're suggesting we bring in as a coach. "Give Saban all the money he wants", Bring in an Iowa State Coach who has asperations for the NFL.

Fucking Fleck

Whatever.

I'm a one board man Wags.

DWags wrote:Oh, and I guarantee the dumbasses will say, "Izzo listened to us" that's why he turned it around.

If you dare, go over to TOB and see who they're suggesting we bring in as a coach. "Give Saban all the money he wants", Bring in an Iowa State Coach who has asperations for the NFL.

Fucking Fleck

Whatever.

Careful. Fleck has some minions on this board.

I think the answer is for Dantonio to hand the keys over to someone else to run the offense.

Coach D should have brought in a hot young Offensive mind who could really excel. He could have guys like Matt Carrick and Jordan Reid doing speed in outer space. It would be awesome. We would have scored 50 on Saturday.

kingstonlake wrote:He will bury scum and MSU. Hard to argue they’re both not a mess right now.

UofM for the amount they are paying Harbaugh they should expect and demand more. For MSU, hard to really not expect a back to back loss to OSU and Wisconsin but the offense is concerning. Also, once Lewerke is gone it's probably going to get worse.