Re: My call out thread will be published tomorrow

[Giant Moose]

The age is 30, duffy. And my tipping based on age is much more fair than the bar owner who pays his servers like $2 or $3 an hour like you probably do.

[Blanch32]

Hey Blanch, is it tomorrow yet ? I'm getting tired of waiting for your call out thread.

Obsession. You are my obsession

[DWags]

The age is 30, duffy. And my tipping based on age is much more fair than the bar owner who pays his servers like $2 or $3 an hour like you probably do.

What if somebody who is 40 is an outstanding server?

[Giant Moose]

The age is 30, duffy. And my tipping based on age is much more fair than the bar owner who pays his servers like $2 or $3 an hour like you probably do.

What if somebody who is 40 is an outstanding server?

If they are outstanding, they get 15% from me and duffy pays them $2.95 an hour.

[NigelUno]

The age is 30, duffy. And my tipping based on age is much more fair than the bar owner who pays his servers like $2 or $3 an hour like you probably do.

What if somebody who is 40 is an outstanding server?

You can't reason, when there is no reason.

Is it ironic that Giant Moose chastises posters on a message board for judging people, but he does it in real life?

Apparently, he has established his own system of age discrimination.

[Giant Moose]

What if somebody who is 40 is an outstanding server?

You can't reason, when there is no reason.

Is it ironic that Giant Moose chastises posters on a message board for judging people, but he does it in real life?

Apparently, he has established his own system of age discrimination.

The next time you go to the movies, will you complain about age discrimination when you have to pay more than children and seniors?

[Giant Moose]

I said I didn't judge what a kid did in high school. I do judge a business owner who can justify paying his employees below minimum wage.

[NigelUno]

You can't reason, when there is no reason.

Is it ironic that Giant Moose chastises posters on a message board for judging people, but he does it in real life?

Apparently, he has established his own system of age discrimination.

The next time you go to the movies, will you complain about age discrimination when you have to pay more than children and seniors?

Of course not. Children obviously need money more than adults to live on (like to buy popcorn, candy, and root beer). The movie theaters recognize that and charge them less money.

[NigelUno]

I said I didn't judge what a kid did in high school. I do judge a business owner who can justify paying his employees below minimum wage.

But, you judge anyone not in high school (or college) that is still a waiter.

Correct? That's what you're doing, right?

You are judging them, and then penalizing them with your own version of age discrimination.

[Blanch32]

What if somebody who is 40 is an outstanding server?

You can't reason, when there is no reason.

This your debate credo?

[Giant Moose]

I said I didn't judge what a kid did in high school. I do judge a business owner who can justify paying his employees below minimum wage.

But, you judge anyone not in high school (or college) that is still a waiter.

Correct? That's what you're doing, right?

You are judging them, and then penalizing them with your own version of age discrimination.

I see it more as rewarding younger people.

[DWags]

I said I didn't judge what a kid did in high school. I do judge a business owner who can justify paying his employees below minimum wage.

I personally think 15% is in the low end for outstanding service but at least you aren't stiffing them. They said you don't tip older servers. That's what interested me.

I assume you were joking last week when you thought people who never leave their hometown were losers.

[Giant Moose]

I posted this before. This is my standard method of tipping.

25%+ if high school or college-aged waiter and service is above average
20% if high school or college-aged waiter and service is average
15% if older than ~30 and service is above average
10% if older than ~30 and service is average
0-5% if service is terrible regardless of age

[DWags]

I said I didn't judge what a kid did in high school. I do judge a business owner who can justify paying his employees below minimum wage.

But, you judge anyone not in high school (or college) that is still a waiter.

Correct? That's what you're doing, right?

You are judging them, and then penalizing them with your own version of age discrimination.

Some of the restaurants I've been in require a bit more experience than a high school student or a full time college student can give. It might be possible.

[Giant Moose]

But, you judge anyone not in high school (or college) that is still a waiter.

Correct? That's what you're doing, right?

You are judging them, and then penalizing them with your own version of age discrimination.

Some of the restaurants I've been in require a bit more experience than a high school student or a full time college student can give. It might be possible.

True and those restaurants likely aren't paying their staff 2 bucks an hour.

[DWags]

I posted this before. This is my standard method of tipping.

25%+ if high school or college-aged waiter and service is above average
20% if high school or college-aged waiter and service is average
15% if older than ~30 and service is above average
10% if older than ~30 and service is average
0-5% if service is terrible regardless of age

You certainly are entitled to do that and some people will be pissed at you for basing something on age, but there isn't a contract to pay some amount at most restaurants. Not that it matters to you, but my wife and I just wouldn't go out to eat with you. That would be personally embarrassing to me. But you're entitled.

I assume you just don't go into very nice restaurants that often. If you frequent a great one and they have an older staff I'd like to hear what they're saying as you're getting seated in one of their areas

[DWags]

Some of the restaurants I've been in require a bit more experience than a high school student or a full time college student can give. It might be possible.

True and those restaurants likely aren't paying their staff 2 bucks an hour.

Does that have something to do with your tip too?

[Giant Moose]

I posted this before. This is my standard method of tipping.

25%+ if high school or college-aged waiter and service is above average
20% if high school or college-aged waiter and service is average
15% if older than ~30 and service is above average
10% if older than ~30 and service is average
0-5% if service is terrible regardless of age

You certainly are entitled to do that and some people will be pissed at you for basing something on age, but there isn't a contract to pay some amount at most restaurants.  Not that it matters to you, but my wife and I just wouldn't go out to eat with you. That would be personally embarrassing to me.  But you're entitled.

I assume you just don't go into very nice restaurants that often. If you frequent a great one and they have an older staff I'd like to hear what they're saying as you're getting seated in one of their areas

I have a ton of options here. DC, Alexandria, Bethesda, Annapolis, Baltimore, etc. I rarely ever eat at the same restaurant twice in a calendar year. I would be impressed if some place remembers me 14 months later when I might frequent them again.

And I don't broadcast what I tip to people I'm out with, so you would never know.

[DWags]

You certainly are entitled to do that and some people will be pissed at you for basing something on age, but there isn't a contract to pay some amount at most restaurants.  Not that it matters to you, but my wife and I just wouldn't go out to eat with you. That would be personally embarrassing to me.  But you're entitled.

I assume you just don't go into very nice restaurants that often. If you frequent a great one and they have an older staff I'd like to hear what they're saying as you're getting seated in one of their areas

I have a ton of options here. DC, Alexandria, Bethesda, Annapolis, Baltimore, etc. I rarely ever eat at the same restaurant twice in a calendar year. I would be impressed if some place remembers me 14 months later when I might frequent them again.

And I don't broadcast what I tip to people I'm out with, so you would never know.

I can imagine that you wouldn't want to frequent one.

[Giant Moose]

I have a ton of options here. DC, Alexandria, Bethesda, Annapolis, Baltimore, etc. I rarely ever eat at the same restaurant twice in a calendar year. I would be impressed if some place remembers me 14 months later when I might frequent them again.

And I don't broadcast what I tip to people I'm out with, so you would never know.

I can imagine that you wouldn't want to frequent one.

I knew that would be your reply. I am sorry I live in an area with hundreds of options. There are only 52 weekends in a year to hit some of these places.

[InTenSity]

You certainly are entitled to do that and some people will be pissed at you for basing something on age, but there isn't a contract to pay some amount at most restaurants.  Not that it matters to you, but my wife and I just wouldn't go out to eat with you. That would be personally embarrassing to me.  But you're entitled.

I assume you just don't go into very nice restaurants that often. If you frequent a great one and they have an older staff I'd like to hear what they're saying as you're getting seated in one of their areas

I have a ton of options here. DC, Alexandria, Bethesda, Annapolis, Baltimore, etc. I rarely ever eat at the same restaurant twice in a calendar year. I would be impressed if some place remembers me 14 months later when I might frequent them again.

And I don't broadcast what I tip to people I'm out with, so you would never know.

If I'm not covering the bill, I look to see what people tip. If they are cheap, I'll stick around and throw a couple more bucks down, then I'll usually call them out for it later. You'd think someone who has such a rigid tipping policy would be proud of it though, but ultimately, they know that what they are doing is frowned upon and they don't want to be embarrassed for looking cheap.

[Giant Moose]

I have a ton of options here. DC, Alexandria, Bethesda, Annapolis, Baltimore, etc. I rarely ever eat at the same restaurant twice in a calendar year. I would be impressed if some place remembers me 14 months later when I might frequent them again.

And I don't broadcast what I tip to people I'm out with, so you would never know.

If I'm not covering the bill, I look to see what people tip. If they are cheap, I'll stick around and throw a couple more bucks down, then I'll usually call them out for it later. You'd think someone who has such a rigid tipping policy would be proud of it though, but ultimately, they know that what they are doing is frowned upon and they don't want to be embarrassed for looking cheap.

Nah, it's just not very classy to discuss the tip or anything related to the bill. It's weird to broadcast how much you are paying for something.

Do you leave price tags on the gifts you give?

[DWags]

I can imagine that you wouldn't want to frequent one.

I knew that would be your reply. I am sorry I live in an area with hundreds of options. There are only 52 weekends in a year to hit some of these places.

There are 365 days in a year though. I'm not going to argue how many times you go out, that's your call. Home meals are great. Cooking is fun. I have a personal favorite. Know the staff they know me. I go at least twice a month.

Everybody has their own ways. At the end of the day people won't remember how wealthy you are but most likely they'll always remember how you treat them. Pretty much we all know that.

[InTenSity]

If I'm not covering the bill, I look to see what people tip. If they are cheap, I'll stick around and throw a couple more bucks down, then I'll usually call them out for it later. You'd think someone who has such a rigid tipping policy would be proud of it though, but ultimately, they know that what they are doing is frowned upon and they don't want to be embarrassed for looking cheap.

Nah, it's just not very classy to discuss the tip or anything related to the bill. It's weird to broadcast how much you are paying for something.

Do you leave price tags on the gifts you give?

The guy who tips based on age is worried about being classy.

[NigelUno]

If I'm not covering the bill, I look to see what people tip. If they are cheap, I'll stick around and throw a couple more bucks down, then I'll usually call them out for it later. You'd think someone who has such a rigid tipping policy would be proud of it though, but ultimately, they know that what they are doing is frowned upon and they don't want to be embarrassed for looking cheap.

Nah, it's just not very classy to discuss the tip or anything related to the bill. It's weird to broadcast how much you are paying for something.

Do you leave price tags on the gifts you give?

Isn't that what you're doing right now?

[DWags]

I have a ton of options here. DC, Alexandria, Bethesda, Annapolis, Baltimore, etc. I rarely ever eat at the same restaurant twice in a calendar year. I would be impressed if some place remembers me 14 months later when I might frequent them again.

And I don't broadcast what I tip to people I'm out with, so you would never know.

If I'm not covering the bill, I look to see what people tip. If they are cheap, I'll stick around and throw a couple more bucks down, then I'll usually call them out for it later. You'd think someone who has such a rigid tipping policy would be proud of it though, but ultimately, they know that what they are doing is frowned upon and they don't want to be embarrassed for looking cheap.

I'd call out my boys if we're drunk and laughing at each other. But yeah my wife and I always try to check the total tab in a group and try to make up any difference in the tip and get it over 20% Especially if it's three or more couples. Rarely will that happen where we will even have to do that.

[DWags]

Nah, it's just not very classy to discuss the tip or anything related to the bill. It's weird to broadcast how much you are paying for something.

Do you leave price tags on the gifts you give?

The guy who tips based on age is worried about being classy.

Yeah, that doesn't exactly seem right

[NigelUno]

You certainly are entitled to do that and some people will be pissed at you for basing something on age, but there isn't a contract to pay some amount at most restaurants.  Not that it matters to you, but my wife and I just wouldn't go out to eat with you. That would be personally embarrassing to me.  But you're entitled.

I assume you just don't go into very nice restaurants that often. If you frequent a great one and they have an older staff I'd like to hear what they're saying as you're getting seated in one of their areas

I have a ton of options here. DC, Alexandria, Bethesda, Annapolis, Baltimore, etc. I rarely ever eat at the same restaurant twice in a calendar year. I would be impressed if some place remembers me 14 months later when I might frequent them again.

And I don't broadcast what I tip to people I'm out with, so you would never know.

You don't have a breakfast and/or lunch place close to you that you frequent more than twice in a year? Or whatever Spartan bar for watching games?

You're trying too hard to cover up for judging people.

[duffy munn]

I have a ton of options here. DC, Alexandria, Bethesda, Annapolis, Baltimore, etc. I rarely ever eat at the same restaurant twice in a calendar year. I would be impressed if some place remembers me 14 months later when I might frequent them again.

And I don't broadcast what I tip to people I'm out with, so you would never know.

If I'm not covering the bill, I look to see what people tip. If they are cheap, I'll stick around and throw a couple more bucks down, then I'll usually call them out for it later. You'd think someone who has such a rigid tipping policy would be proud of it though, but ultimately, they know that what they are doing is frowned upon and they don't want to be embarrassed for looking cheap.

I do the same thing if when I see somebody under tip a server. And usually if someone insists on buying, I insist of tipping.

[Giant Moose]

duffy, you pay human beings less than minimum wage. You are such a hypocrite. Again.

[NigelUno]

Some of the restaurants I've been in require a bit more experience than a high school student or a full time college student can give. It might be possible.

True and those restaurants likely aren't paying their staff 2 bucks an hour.

Do you ask the waiter first (how much he's making...what his health insurance plan is)?

And then adjust your tip accordingly?

Or would that not be classy?

[duffy munn]

I said I didn't judge what a kid did in high school. I do judge a business owner who can justify paying his employees below minimum wage.

This is funny. The law says an establishment can pay servers below minimum wage. Most of my servers averaged well over $15 an hour.

Now, the best part of this judgment is the guy who tips based on age ( code for cheap ass) is calling out owners for the wage they pay. So GM, what would you pay your servers ? Since you are obviously very generous with your money.

[Giant Moose]

I said I didn't judge what a kid did in high school. I do judge a business owner who can justify paying his employees below minimum wage.

This is funny. The law says an establishment can pay servers below minimum wage. Most of my servers averaged well over $15 an hour.

Now, the best part of this judgment is the guy who tips based on age ( code for cheap ass) is calling out owners for the wage they pay. So GM, what would you pay your servers ? Since you are obviously very generous with your money.

I am glad you can justify paying people less than minimum wage. Hi, Ebenezer.

[Giant Moose]

How do you feel when you tell that 40-year-old he'll be starting at $2.15 an hour?

[Giant Moose]

If everyone stopped tipping duffy would have to pay his employees like they are actual human beings. No wonder he loves tipping. More money for him.

[duffy munn]

This is funny. The law says an establishment can pay servers below minimum wage. Most of my servers averaged well over $15 an hour.

Now, the best part of this judgment is the guy who tips based on age ( code for cheap ass) is calling out owners for the wage they pay. So GM, what would you pay your servers ? Since you are obviously very generous with your money.

I am glad you can justify paying people less than minimum wage. Hi, Ebeneezer.

I guess you missed the $15 an hour part ( average) and the question of what wage you would pay.

In my case, and I've been out of the business for 5 years now, being a server was a damn good college job. On a busy night, a server would walk out the door with $200+ in cash after a 6 hour shift.

[Giant Moose]

I am glad you can justify paying people less than minimum wage. Hi, Ebeneezer.

I guess you missed the $15 an hour part ( average)  and the question of what  wage you would pay.

In my case, and I've been out of the business for 5 years now, being a server was a damn good college job. On a busy night, a server would walk out the door with $200+ in cash after a 6 hour shift.

Hey, if you were happy paying employees that low of a wage, more power to you. You have to live with yourself.

[NigelUno]

I guess you missed the $15 an hour part ( average)  and the question of what  wage you would pay.

In my case, and I've been out of the business for 5 years now, being a server was a damn good college job. On a busy night, a server would walk out the door with $200+ in cash after a 6 hour shift.

Hey, if you were happy paying employees that low of a wage, more power to you. You have to live with yourself.

Another day...another Giant Moose DEFLECTION.

Now my day is complete.

[duffy munn]

I guess you missed the $15 an hour part ( average)  and the question of what  wage you would pay.

In my case, and I've been out of the business for 5 years now, being a server was a damn good college job. On a busy night, a server would walk out the door with $200+ in cash after a 6 hour shift.

Hey, if you were happy paying employees that low of a wage, more power to you. You have to live with yourself.

I'll ask the simple question again: what would YOU pay your servers ?

[Giant Moose]

Hey, if you were happy paying employees that low of a wage, more power to you. You have to live with yourself.

I'll ask the simple question again: what would YOU pay your servers ?

This is always your strategy. Who would I hire as coach? What would I pay my servers? Blah blah blah. All these fictional scenarios that would never happen because I will never be a bar owner or an athletic director.

You paid human beings 2 bucks an hour and are OK with it. Good for you.

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