Not a good week for The Donald - 538 projects his chance of winning is 21.6% (Update 11.0%)

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

TheReal_LWS wrote:

ID10T

You sound like Trump. I think you just dropped 5 points in the polls.

Good one! Pylon you have the best insults.

Some people deserve to die. Jesus was one of them.

That's what I imagine you and pantry to look like.

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:That's what I imagine you and pantry to look like.

Since this thread has turned into a catch all, the clip showing Clinton bring up Trump's treatment and comments about Miss Universe / 1996 showed a part of Trump that was telling but a bit of a mystery.

Part way through Trump leans in, interupts and asks,
"Where did you find this? Where did you find this"

I don't know if Trump forgot and was angry at his staff for not reminding himor if he was angry that Clinton's campaign found her, interviewed her and as Trump found out the next day, had her make an ad targeting Spanish speaking women.

Just an odd moment where I thought Trump felt he had to say something but had no acceptable explanation.

GRR Spartan wrote:Since this thread has turned into a catch all, the clip showing Clinton bring up Trump's treatment and comments about Miss Universe / 1996 showed a part of Trump that was telling but a bit of a mystery.

Part way through Trump leans in, interupts and asks,
"Where did you find this? Where did you find this"

I don't know if Trump forgot and was angry at his staff for not reminding himor if he was angry that Clinton's campaign found her, interviewed her and as Trump found out the next day, had her make an ad targeting Spanish speaking women.

Just an odd moment where I thought Trump felt he had to say something but had no acceptable explanation.

On that point, apparently "Miss Piggy" is a definite menace. Just the kind of person that Hillary would attract:

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/09/28/miss-universe-alicia-machado-accused-threatening-to-kill-judge-in-late-90s.html

TheReal_LWS wrote:

GRR Spartan wrote:Since this thread has turned into a catch all, the clip showing Clinton bring up Trump's treatment and comments about Miss Universe / 1996 showed a part of Trump that was telling but a bit of a mystery.

Part way through Trump leans in, interupts and asks,
"Where did you find this? Where did you find this"

I don't know if Trump forgot and was angry at his staff for not reminding himor if he was angry that Clinton's campaign found her, interviewed her and as Trump found out the next day, had her make an ad targeting Spanish speaking women.

Just an odd moment where I thought Trump felt he had to say something but had no acceptable explanation.

On that point, apparently "Miss Piggy" is a definite menace. Just the kind of person that Hillary would attract:

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/09/28/miss-universe-alicia-machado-accused-threatening-to-kill-judge-in-late-90s.html

Was it a Mexican judge?

Incredibly convienient that a news organization finds out unsavory information on this woman AFTER her name is brought up in a natinally televised debate and Trump's initial response was "Where dd you find this"

Just when it can't get stranger, it does.

GRR Spartan wrote:Incredibly convienient that a news organization finds out unsavory information on this woman AFTER her name is brought up in a natinally televised debate and Trump's initial response was "Where dd you find this"

Just when it can't get stranger, it does.

Agreed. And she's the gift that keeps on giving!

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1875985/alicia-machado-live-sex-the-farm/

TheReal_LWS wrote:

NigelUno wrote:

You think Trump "wins" the debate?  He has a tendency to say silly things.  Not sure that's going to play out well on a big stage.

yeah because its hurt him so much before. LOL You guys are in denial.

Speaking of denial...

538 Nowcast:
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#now

Clinton  69.3%
Trump  30.7%

Are Dems going to show up to the polls? I feel like Trump has a chance to get people out who may otherwise not vote. Be interesting to see.

I can't vote for Clinton. Can't do it. Would imagine that's a victory for trump when I vote Gary. Fuck this shit. Ugh.

Triple Sparty wrote:Are Dems going to show up to the polls? I feel like Trump has a chance to get people out who may otherwise not vote. Be interesting to see.

Clinton will get people out, BIGLY GOTV effort. Obviously not as good a turnout as Obama but will likely get the job done in Florida.

I honestly believe there is a decent x factor in people (like myself) who find Trump repulsive however find Hillary even more repulsive and do not like to admit publicly they're voting for the dolt.

P Rob wrote:

Triple Sparty wrote:Are Dems going to show up to the polls? I feel like Trump has a chance to get people out who may otherwise not vote. Be interesting to see.

Clinton will get people out, BIGLY GOTV effort. Obviously not as good a turnout as Obama but will likely get the job done in Florida.

I honestly believe there is a decent x factor in people (like myself) who find Trump repulsive however find Hillary even more repulsive and do not like to admit publicly they're voting for the dolt.

I'm not a fan of Hillary or Trump but in what fantasy land are you living where Hillary is actually more repulsive than Trump?

AnomanderRake wrote:

P Rob wrote:

Clinton will get people out, BIGLY GOTV effort. Obviously not as good a turnout as Obama but will likely get the job done in Florida.

I honestly believe there is a decent x factor in people (like myself) who find Trump repulsive however find Hillary even more repulsive and do not like to admit publicly they're voting for the dolt.

I'm not a fan of Hillary or Trump but in what fantasy land are you living where Hillary is actually more repulsive than Trump?

Yeah. Would like to know this as well.

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

AnomanderRake wrote:

I'm not a fan of Hillary or Trump but in what fantasy land are you living where Hillary is actually more repulsive than Trump?

Yeah. Would like to know this as well.

Neither get that kind of reaction from me.

Hillary will maintain the status quo. Nothing will really change. Trump as President would be mildly entertaining (like a bad sitcom).

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

AnomanderRake wrote:

I'm not a fan of Hillary or Trump but in what fantasy land are you living where Hillary is actually more repulsive than Trump?

Yeah. Would like to know this as well.

Hillary would pander to a herpes sore if it allowed her to gain more power. Please don't mistake what I said as any form of praise for her opponent.

Clinton got a slight bump since the debate so I guess she won? 

These are real polls LWS.

P Rob wrote:

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

Yeah. Would like to know this as well.

Hillary would pander to a herpes sore if it allowed her to gain more power. Please don't mistake what I said as any form of praise for her opponent.

Trump has been cozying up to Putin for the better part of a year. I won't play high and mighty with my vote and blame myself for a Trump Presidency.

For me, voting for Clinton means 4 more years of a pragmatic Democrat rather than electing a friend of Russa and a man who want to be able to sue reporters.

But that's me. In 4 years maybe the GOP gets its shit together and nominates a GOP pragmatist like Kasich.

Good point GRR, if it was Kasich on the other end - outside of his religious shit (that was him, right?) there is no doubt I'm voting republican.

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Good point GRR, if it was Kasich on the other end - outside of his religious shit (that was him, right?) there is no doubt I'm voting republican.

You're thinking of Cruz. Kasich is a strong Catholic and very pro-life, but was not prone to peddle his faith like Cruz.

Turtleneck wrote:

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Good point GRR, if it was Kasich on the other end - outside of his religious shit (that was him, right?) there is no doubt I'm voting republican.

You're thinking of Cruz. Kasich is a strong Catholic and very pro-life, but was not prone to peddle his faith like Cruz.

No. Fuck Cruz. Hard. Wasn't Kasich pushing some faith outreach program within the government?

Not sure. I just know his religion was not a piece of theatre. He did not go over well with conservatives that need candidates to turn their faith into spectacle.

Anyone seen LWS?

early voting has started in a lot of states.. not a good sign for the fine christian, Cheeto Hitler..

GRR Spartan wrote:

P Rob wrote:

Hillary would pander to a herpes sore if it allowed her to gain more power. Please don't mistake what I said as any form of praise for her opponent.

For me, voting for Clinton means 4 more years of a pragmatic Democrat rather than electing a friend of Russa and a man who want to be able to sue reporters.

That's an interesting way to put it. Not that Trump has any tangible political qualities...

TheReal_LWS wrote:UH OH!

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

51.5% to 48.5%

Libs in panic! ROFL

After tonight I think Trump takes the lead. I can't see Billary doing much except fighting to remain awake.

TRUMP IS GOING TO WIN IN A LANDSLIDE. THE POLLS ARE WRONG. HE IS EVEN GOING TO WIN CALIFORNIA!

P Rob wrote:TRUMP IS GOING TO WIN IN A LANDSLIDE.  THE POLLS ARE WRONG.  HE IS EVEN GOING TO WIN CALIFORNIA!

Only if all the women stay home where they belong.

Floyd Robertson wrote:

P Rob wrote:TRUMP IS GOING TO WIN IN A LANDSLIDE.  THE POLLS ARE WRONG.  HE IS EVEN GOING TO WIN CALIFORNIA!

Only if all the women stay home where they belong.

If you removed the women's vote the last Democrat elected might have been FDR and he wouldn't have gotten 4 terms.


Will await the distortion machine to interpret that statement of fact as advocating: a)For Trump and/or b)women not voting.

At midnight, 21 days before the election:

538 is projecting Clinton 88.1% and 346 electoral / Trump 11.9% and 192

Arizona, Iowa and Ohio flipping to Clinton leads in last 7 days.

4 years ago the GOP braintrust said it had to do a better job attracting minority and female demo's.  So in '16 the party nominated a candidate who has insulted cross sections of every group where they needed to gain support.

A few months ago I said one might think Trump had figured out how much work being President really took and was trying to lose.  With the reports of his Trump brand being damaged by the campaign and other reports of a new news channel it might be the case.

LooseGoose wrote:

Floyd Robertson wrote:

Only if all the women stay home where they belong.

If you removed the women's vote the last Democrat elected might have been FDR and he wouldn't have gotten 4 terms.


Will await the distortion machine to interpret that statement of fact as advocating: a)For Trump and/or b)women not voting.

Chaos theory. Removing all women votes in no way guaranteed that all men's votes stay the same.

GRR Spartan wrote:At midnight, 21 days before the election:

538 is projecting Clinton 88.1% and 346 electoral / Trump 11.9% and 192

Arizona, Iowa and Ohio flipping to Clinton leads in last 7 days.

4 years ago the GOP braintrust said it had to do a better job attracting minority and female demo's.  So in '16 the party nominated a candidate who has insulted cross sections of every group where they needed to gain support.

A few months ago I said one might think Trump had figured out how much work being President really took and was trying to lose.  With the reports of his Trump brand being damaged by the campaign and other reports of a new news channel it might be the case.

Interesting news about Ohio. Last I saw, CNN still had DJT up by 4 points.

Nate Silver uses algorithms that also use trends 

As of 8:05 am today shows Clinton has an almost 67% chance of winning Ohio, the 63% chance of winning Iowa and and 57% chance in Arizona.  All those numbers have flipped in the last week.

Interestingly, Trump was in WI yesterday and Pence was in MI where the chances of a Clinton win are around 90%.

GRR Spartan wrote:At midnight, 21 days before the election:

538 is projecting Clinton 88.1% and 346 electoral / Trump 11.9% and 192

Arizona, Iowa and Ohio flipping to Clinton leads in last 7 days.

4 years ago the GOP braintrust said it had to do a better job attracting minority and female demo's.  So in '16 the party nominated a candidate who has insulted cross sections of every group where they needed to gain support.

A few months ago I said one might think Trump had figured out how much work being President really took and was trying to lose.  With the reports of his Trump brand being damaged by the campaign and other reports of a new news channel it might be the case.

we need to do a better job at appealing to Hispanics, African-Americans and women... so let's nominee a racist, bigoted misogynist who brags about sexually assaulting women.

Sincerely,

Modern Day Conservatives

TheReal_LWS wrote:

TheReal_LWS wrote:

Not when he is up against a coughing, fainting stiff.

Why do you think Billary will win?

Also, is this the way you thought this thread would go when you created it? LOL

Pretty much.

Normally the Dems hate Rasmussen.....

John McCormack ‏@McCormackJohn 1h1 hour ago
Best tracking poll for Hillary today: Rasmussen

Folks who don't care about accuracy like Rasmussen.

I don't know why they even do Presidential polling given their history of being the consistent outlier that rarely ends up predicting winners.

America is a pretty stupid country so I still think Trump is going to do a lot better than the pollsters are predicting.