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Re: tOfficial Detroit Lions Thread: Sheila ain't fucking around
kingstonlake wrote:Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
That description makes it an absolutely phenomenal trade then. You’re the same team you were but now you have two extra assets? Great.
I don’t agree. You added two future late first round picks AND two years of a guaranteed crappy contract. The two picks were add ons because his contract is so bad. You have to look beyond the picks.
If they can dump Goff then I’d say it’s a good move.
Who gives a shit about the contract? It’s two years. It doesn’t matter.
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Travis of the Cosmos wrote:kingstonlake wrote:
I don’t agree. You added two future late first round picks AND two years of a guaranteed crappy contract. The two picks were add ons because his contract is so bad. You have to look beyond the picks.
If they can dump Goff then I’d say it’s a good move.
Who gives a shit about the contract? It’s two years. It doesn’t matter.
Worst thing they could do is compete next year unless goff plays at an mvp level for the next 7-8 years in a lions uniform
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Travis of the Cosmos wrote:kingstonlake wrote:
I don’t agree. You added two future late first round picks AND two years of a guaranteed crappy contract. The two picks were add ons because his contract is so bad. You have to look beyond the picks.
If they can dump Goff then I’d say it’s a good move.
Who gives a shit about the contract? It’s two years. It doesn’t matter.
Ok, Matt Millen.
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aualum06 wrote:Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Who gives a shit about the contract? It’s two years. It doesn’t matter.
Worst thing they could do is compete next year unless goff plays at an mvp level for the next 7-8 years in a lions uniform
That’s literally worst case scenario here, that he’s good but not great and wins 6-7 games.
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Travis of the Cosmos wrote:aualum06 wrote:
Worst thing they could do is compete next year unless goff plays at an mvp level for the next 7-8 years in a lions uniform
That’s literally worst case scenario here, that he’s good but not great and wins 6-7 games.
As awful as the talent is I'm not sure rodgers would win more than 5 next year.
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Heat Miser wrote:Package Goff, the picks, and their own 1st rounder for Watson.
IMO, that’s giving up too much when there’s so much else needed on the team, even if it’s a superstar QB. Move Goff w/one of the new R-1 picks if the contract is too much or he’s a problem, but the Lions need higher quality talent pretty much everywhere. Hell, I’d consider the two LA first rounders as high second rounders and look beyond skill positions, since the very best players will be gone, anyway. Get the unsexy but necessary picks and they’ll be around for 8-10 or more years.
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kingstonlake wrote:Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Who gives a shit about the contract? It’s two years. It doesn’t matter.
Ok, Matt Millen.
Steve-level logic.
Stoops-level meltdown.
Mods, please change Kingston’s screen name to
Steve Stoops. Thanks.
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tGreenWay wrote:kingstonlake wrote:
Ok, Matt Millen.
Steve-level logic.
Stoops-level meltdown.
Mods, please change Kingston’s screen name to
Steve Stoops. Thanks.
I don't see how Kingston recovers from this. #deathblow #eviscerated #kingstongone #GWFTW
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Appears that the rams approached the packers first.
Rams wanted Rodgers. Approached Green Bay.
Rams wanted Rodgers. Approached Green Bay.
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Peter King claims another team was offering two first rounders.
Also Carolina was offering the #8 overall this year and a 3rd rounder.
Also Carolina was offering the #8 overall this year and a 3rd rounder.
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God damn I can't wait for the current staff to get fired in three years. The next staff..... that'll be the one that'll get us a playoff win. I can feel it!
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I just hope they don’t fuck this up and not draft Fields or Wilson in the first round.
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Motown Spartan wrote:I just hope they don’t fuck this up and not draft Fields or Wilson in the first round.
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What the Lions thought. New coach Dan Campbell and new GM Brad Holmes had this in common: They both wanted Goff, and not just as a bridge quarterback. As director of college scouting for the Rams when Goff was picked in 2016, Holmes favored him inside the Rams draft room—and still does, I’m told. Campbell, I’m also told, liked Goff not just as a bridge quarterback but as the Lions quarterback of the future.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/01/31/chiefs-bucs-super-bowl-rams-lions-trade-fmia-peter-king/
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kingstonlake wrote:Peter King claims another team was offering two first rounders.
Also Carolina was offering the #8 overall this year and a 3rd rounder.
Peter King?
This Peter King?
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People really aren't understanding the value goff brings at a buy low and see what happens
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NigelUno wrote:kingstonlake wrote:Peter King claims another team was offering two first rounders.
Also Carolina was offering the #8 overall this year and a 3rd rounder.
Peter King?
This Peter King?
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Yes Nigel. That’s the guy. That Peter King. Do you want a hat?
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aualum06 wrote:People really aren't understanding the value goff brings at a buy low and see what happens
His contract is horrible which is why the Rams had to give up the draft picks for Detroit to take his contract.
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Motown Spartan wrote:aualum06 wrote:People really aren't understanding the value goff brings at a buy low and see what happens
His contract is horrible which is why the Rams had to give up the draft picks for Detroit to take his contract.
If I didn’t know better they paid a supposed premium to unload a bad contract and average player. Boy I hope the guy who evaluated his talent finds work somewhere......
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kingstonlake wrote:Motown Spartan wrote:
His contract is horrible which is why the Rams had to give up the draft picks for Detroit to take his contract.
If I didn’t know better they paid a supposed premium to unload a bad contract and average player. Boy I hope the guy who evaluated his talent finds work somewhere......
Excellent post, Steve Stoops.
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Motown Spartan wrote:aualum06 wrote:People really aren't understanding the value goff brings at a buy low and see what happens
His contract is horrible which is why the Rams had to give up the draft picks for Detroit to take his contract.
It's not that horrible. 2 seasons and he's gone. Gives you two drafts and off-seasons to find your qb
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Let's weigh reported offers Lions received for quarterback Matthew Stafford
In the end, the Lions got three compelling offers, from Los Angeles, Carolina and Washington. All three would have helped the team, but given the number of roster holes, and the two-to-three-year window the team is looking at for its rebuild, general manager Brad Holmes chose quantity of assets over a single, higher-quality asset.
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2021/02/01/weighing-reported-offers-detroit-lions-received-matthew-stafford/4336009001/
In the end, the Lions got three compelling offers, from Los Angeles, Carolina and Washington. All three would have helped the team, but given the number of roster holes, and the two-to-three-year window the team is looking at for its rebuild, general manager Brad Holmes chose quantity of assets over a single, higher-quality asset.
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2021/02/01/weighing-reported-offers-detroit-lions-received-matthew-stafford/4336009001/
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aualum06 wrote:Motown Spartan wrote:
His contract is horrible which is why the Rams had to give up the draft picks for Detroit to take his contract.
It's not that horrible. 2 seasons and he's gone. Gives you two drafts and off-seasons to find your qb
So not even as long as Charlie Batch.
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aualum06 wrote:Motown Spartan wrote:
His contract is horrible which is why the Rams had to give up the draft picks for Detroit to take his contract.
It's not that horrible. 2 seasons and he's gone. Gives you two drafts and off-seasons to find your qb
So you think the guy who evaluated his talent and had his former organization draft him, has since been hired as a GM elsewhere, promptly traded for him, has a coach high on him, is gonna move on from him in two years?
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kingstonlake wrote:aualum06 wrote:
It's not that horrible. 2 seasons and he's gone. Gives you two drafts and off-seasons to find your qb
So you think the guy who evaluated his talent and had his former organization draft him, has since been hired as a GM elsewhere, promptly traded for him, has a coach high on him, is gonna move on from him in two years?
Yep
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I guess I’d rather have the 7th and 8th pick this year without Goff. Sit whomever you draft at QB, You know you’ll suck enough for a top 3 pick next year. I’m not interested in being upper level suck with Goff. Go full suck. Lol
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kingstonlake wrote:aualum06 wrote:
It's not that horrible. 2 seasons and he's gone. Gives you two drafts and off-seasons to find your qb
So you think the guy who evaluated his talent and had his former organization draft him, has since been hired as a GM elsewhere, promptly traded for him, has a coach high on him, is gonna move on from him in two years?
The Rams and their Coach were high on Goff 2 years ago...
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kingstonlake wrote:I guess I’d rather have the 7th and 8th pick this year without Goff. Sit whomever you draft at QB, You know you’ll suck enough for a top 3 pick next year. I’m not interested in being upper level suck with Goff. Go full suck. Lol
Franchise qb probably isn't there at 7 or 8 this year. There's one in lawrence this year. Maybe wilson
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aualum06 wrote:kingstonlake wrote:I guess I’d rather have the 7th and 8th pick this year without Goff. Sit whomever you draft at QB, You know you’ll suck enough for a top 3 pick next year. I’m not interested in being upper level suck with Goff. Go full suck. Lol
Franchise qb probably isn't there at 7 or 8 this year. There's one in lawrence this year. Maybe wilson
I think Fields is worth the 7th pick. But then again I thought Heath Shuler was gonna be a great nfl QB.
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I like this trade a lot - for the Lions I would grade it an A+.
Campbell wants to install a run first offense. Despite what you may think, Goff is tough as hell. He is not particularly mobile, but is very strong in play action. He fits perfectly what the Lions want to do on offense. I think he will thrive being away from McVay's constant micromanaging.
Stafford is a great QB, but he is not the right QB for the offense the Campbell wants to run.Â
The Lions got a QB who is significantly younger and and who fits their system better. Not to mention, two first rounders and a third rounder.
Campbell wants to install a run first offense. Despite what you may think, Goff is tough as hell. He is not particularly mobile, but is very strong in play action. He fits perfectly what the Lions want to do on offense. I think he will thrive being away from McVay's constant micromanaging.
Stafford is a great QB, but he is not the right QB for the offense the Campbell wants to run.Â
The Lions got a QB who is significantly younger and and who fits their system better. Not to mention, two first rounders and a third rounder.
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https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2021/2/1/22259932/matthew-stafford-trade-details-offers-turned-down-detroit-lions
But more notable for Lions fans, Breer breaks down some exact offers the Lions had on the table. Here’s what he notes about nine different teams interested in Stafford:
- Rams initial offer was a 2022 first-round pick, Goff and an additional pick
- Washington Football Team offered their first-round pick (19th overall) + a third rounder
- Carolina Panthers offered their first-round pick (8th overall) + a later pick
- Indianapolis Colts offered packages of picks and players, but never their first-round pick (21st)
- San Francisco 49ers never made an official offer, but Breer believes the 12th overall pick was not going to be on the table
- Broncos discussed a pick-swap equating to a late first-round pick.
- Patriots and Bears both “checked in.” New England offered a second-round pick and a player
- Jets also “checked in.” When the Lions approached on Saturday, talks didn’t progress far
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Hoo-boy, Teddy Bruschi is only a little bit butthurt about Matt Stafford not wanting to play for the Pats.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/02/04/tedy-bruschi-matthew-stafford-not-tough-enough-to-play-for-the-patriots/amp/
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/02/04/tedy-bruschi-matthew-stafford-not-tough-enough-to-play-for-the-patriots/amp/
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tGreenWay wrote:Hoo-boy, Teddy Bruschi is only a little bit butthurt about Matt Stafford not wanting to play for the Pats.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/02/04/tedy-bruschi-matthew-stafford-not-tough-enough-to-play-for-the-patriots/amp/
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Lions apparently are not going to franchise Golladay. Gonna save that chedda.
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Apparently, Detroit is considering taking yet another TE in this year’s draft. The difference this time is the player, Kyle Pitts, has excellent speed and lines up at wideout, too.
https://www.mlive.com/lions/2021/03/florida-te-kyle-pitts-blows-up-pro-day-intrigued-by-fit-with-detroit-lions.html?outputType=amp
https://www.mlive.com/lions/2021/03/florida-te-kyle-pitts-blows-up-pro-day-intrigued-by-fit-with-detroit-lions.html?outputType=amp
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tGreenWay wrote:Apparently, Detroit is considering taking yet another TE in this year’s draft. The difference this time is the player, Kyle Pitts, has excellent speed and lines up at wideout, too.
https://www.mlive.com/lions/2021/03/florida-te-kyle-pitts-blows-up-pro-day-intrigued-by-fit-with-detroit-lions.html?outputType=amp
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kingstonlake wrote:tGreenWay wrote:Apparently, Detroit is considering taking yet another TE in this year’s draft. The difference this time is the player, Kyle Pitts, has excellent speed and lines up at wideout, too.
https://www.mlive.com/lions/2021/03/florida-te-kyle-pitts-blows-up-pro-day-intrigued-by-fit-with-detroit-lions.html?outputType=amp
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CBS’ Dennis Dodds says the Lions offered ISU’s Matt Campbell an 8 year deal worth $68.5 million, with complete control of the team. He turned it down. Enter Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes.
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I don’t know mr Campbell #2 but I think that probably worked out for the best.
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