The 2024 US House & Senate (& Presidential Election) and the Michigan Legislature - Who do you Think Wins?

https://michiganadvance.com/2024/07/27/meet-the-4-democrats-who-want-to-take-on-us-rep-john-james-this-fall/

The August Democratic primary for the SE Michigan seat features Carl Marlinga, Emily Busch, Tiffany Tilley and Diane Young

https://www.clickondetroit.com/decision-2024/2024/07/26/new-polling-shows-where-michigan-voters-stand-on-senate-race-project-2025-immigration/

What if the person I am voting for in the primary, whoever isn’t slotkin, beats her

Things in MI have reversed. That all started about 1:00 Sunday July 21 with Biden’s announcement.

Harris will help Slotkin and that pull thru helps the Democrats retain MI 3 and MI 7

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:What if the person I am voting for in the primary, whoever isn’t slotkin, beats her

So, you are voting for an actor who has never held office and probably knows next to nothing about Michigan's needs over an experienced and knowledgeable politician who has been immersed in Michigan's needs for years?

Make sense for someone like you, I guess.

While you probably don't care about the farmers, agriculture is one of the top businesses sectors in Michigan.

Stabenow is the Chairperson of the Senate Agriculture committee & Slotkin, as a member of the House Agricultural committee is set up to work her way up the seniority chain to be a voice for Michigan Agriculture as Stabenow has been.

The actor, or for that matter Rogers, well not so much.

The Republican farmers associations have endorsed Slotkin, that should tell you something about bipartisanship trumping (pun) party.

Trapper Gus wrote:

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:What if the person I am voting for in the primary, whoever isn’t slotkin, beats her

So, you are voting for an actor who has never held office and probably knows next to nothing about Michigan's needs over an experienced and knowledgeable politician who has been immersed in Michigan's needs for years?

Make sense for someone like you, I guess.

While you probably don't care about the farmers, agriculture is one of the top businesses sectors in Michigan.

Stabenow is the Chairperson of the Senate Agriculture committee & Slotkin, as a member of the House Agricultural committee is set up to work her way up the seniority chain to be a voice for Michigan Agriculture as Stabenow has been.

The actor, or for that matter Rogers, well not so much.

The Republican farmers associations have endorsed Slotkin, that should tell you something about bipartisanship trumping (pun) party.

God you’re such a douchebag.

I clearly have no idea who the other choice(s) is. I can’t stand slotkin. She is awful awful awful. The definition of what is wrong with democrats and what has to this point allowed facism to creep in. I want to vote for politicians that do not cozy up to genocidal maniacs and say “look at me I’m in the middle between normal people and racist psychopaths isn’t that so great!”

Fuck bipartisanship. You don’t compromise with genocidal maniacs. You crush them. We can talk about bipartisanship when they bring themselves back from the brink. For now, that’s not what we need.

I think it is probably a long shot, however, North Dakoata has a population less than many cities in Michigan and all politics is local.

Incumbent Kevin Cramer (R-ND) is being challenged by Katrina Christiansen. Katrina is a professor at the University of Jamestown in Jamestown, ND. If I’m reading the bio on her webpage right, she has a PhD in Agricultural Engineering and a couple of patents.

BTW Ag is a huge part of ND, so an Ag professor is nothing to sneeze at.

https://www.newsdakota.com/2024/07/16/christiansen-outraises-cramer-in-north-dakota-senate-race/

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:

So, you are voting for an actor who has never held office and probably knows next to nothing about Michigan's needs over an experienced and knowledgeable politician who has been immersed in Michigan's needs for years?

Make sense for someone like you, I guess.

While you probably don't care about the farmers, agriculture is one of the top businesses sectors in Michigan.

Stabenow is the Chairperson of the Senate Agriculture committee & Slotkin, as a member of the House Agricultural committee is set up to work her way up the seniority chain to be a voice for Michigan Agriculture as Stabenow has been.

The actor, or for that matter Rogers, well not so much.

The Republican farmers associations have endorsed Slotkin, that should tell you something about bipartisanship trumping (pun) party.

God you’re such a douchebag.

I clearly have no idea who the other choice(s) is. I can’t stand slotkin. She is awful awful awful. The definition of what is wrong with democrats and what has to this point allowed facism to creep in. I want to vote for politicians that do not cozy up to genocidal maniacs and say “look at me I’m in the middle between normal people and racist psychopaths isn’t that so great!”

Fuck bipartisanship. You don’t compromise with genocidal maniacs. You crush them. We can talk about bipartisanship when they bring themselves back from the brink. For now, that’s not what we need.

By taking the stand of "moral purity" you are denying the basics of democracy, Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

Trapper Gus wrote:

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
God you’re such a douchebag.

I clearly have no idea who the other choice(s) is. I can’t stand slotkin. She is awful awful awful. The definition of what is wrong with democrats and what has to this point allowed facism to creep in. I want to vote for politicians that do not cozy up to genocidal maniacs and say “look at me I’m in the middle between normal people and racist psychopaths isn’t that so great!”

Fuck bipartisanship. You don’t compromise with genocidal maniacs. You crush them. We can talk about bipartisanship when they bring themselves back from the brink. For now, that’s not what we need.

By taking the stand of "moral purity" you are denying the basics of democracy, Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

It’s not moral purity. It’s realism. You’re the one living in a fantasy land of wishing it were still Ronald Reagan and Tip Oneil meeting to hash things out (lotta good those compromises ended up getting us lol, what a disaster)

The reality is that you don’t compromise when what one side wants is objectively horrible. You can’t compromise on anything. You can’t give them an inch of room or they’ll blow it wide open. We’ve seen that entirely too many times in history. The only antidote is to ruthlessly destroy them at every opportunity. Not compromise so you can throw out ads saying “look how good I am at meeting in the middle with the dictators that want to take away your rights! You only lost some rights not all!”

You’d think after being so thoroughly embarrassed after months of being hopelessly wrong you’d mind your tone, but no. You’re wrong here too.

Trapper Gus wrote:

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
God you’re such a douchebag.

I clearly have no idea who the other choice(s) is. I can’t stand slotkin. She is awful awful awful. The definition of what is wrong with democrats and what has to this point allowed facism to creep in. I want to vote for politicians that do not cozy up to genocidal maniacs and say “look at me I’m in the middle between normal people and racist psychopaths isn’t that so great!”

Fuck bipartisanship. You don’t compromise with genocidal maniacs. You crush them. We can talk about bipartisanship when they bring themselves back from the brink. For now, that’s not what we need.

By taking the stand of "moral purity" you are denying the basics of democracy, Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

And on the Sabbath no less. Tsk tsk.

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:

By taking the stand of "moral purity" you are denying the basics of democracy, Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

It’s not moral purity. It’s realism. You’re the one living in a fantasy land of wishing it were still Ronald Reagan and Tip Oneil meeting to hash things out (lotta good those compromises ended up getting us lol, what a disaster)

The reality is that you don’t compromise when what one side wants is objectively horrible. You can’t compromise on anything. You can’t give them an inch of room or they’ll blow it wide open. We’ve seen that entirely too many times in history. The only antidote is to ruthlessly destroy them at every opportunity. Not compromise so you can throw out ads saying “look how good I am at meeting in the middle with the dictators that want to take away your rights! You only lost some rights not all!”

You’d think after being so thoroughly embarrassed after months of being hopelessly wrong you’d mind your tone, but no. You’re wrong here too.

Biden & Pelosi got some of the most sigificate Acts of the last 50 years through Congess with their ability to compromise, being sure to not make the perfect the enemy of the good.  

Anyone who has ever worked with other people knows this is how things get done.

I know you are just posturing on a message board, but matching the intolerance of the right is not the way to get things done.

Michigan badly needs a strong voice on the Ag committee & she would provide that.

Why is Slotkin “awful, awful, awful”.

Give some examples of why that strong opinion came about.

That’s what I heard about Debbie Stabenaw since she beat out fellow Democrat Lingg Brewer for chair of the Ingham County Board of Commisioners and every election she has won since.

Slotkin is going to be on the ballot against Mike Rogers who won his first Congressional race when The Green Party got Bonnie Buckeroo on the ballot (that was her real name) and that peeled enough votes from Diane Byram for Rogers to win.  

A side note.  Latest photos I’ve seen on Rogers’ campaign literature appear to show he’s dyed his hair blonde to hide the grey.  He wasn’t blonde when he was in Congress)

At this point I'm beginning to feel that if I voice support for a candidate some posters will have a cow about that candidate.

GRR Spartan wrote:Why is Slotkin “awful, awful, awful”.

Give some examples of why that strong opinion came about.

That’s what I heard about Debbie Stabenaw since she beat out fellow Democrat Lingg Brewer for chair of the Ingham County Board of Commisioners and every election she has won since.

Slotkin is going to be on the ballot against Mike Rogers who won his first Congressional race when The Green Party got Bonnie Buckeroo on the ballot  (that was her real name) and that peeled enough votes from Diane Byram for Rogers to win.  

A side note.  Latest photos I’ve seen on Rogers’ campaign literature appear to show he’s dyed his hair blonde to hide the grey.  He wasn’t blonde when he was in Congress)

I don’t know if you read my post but I thought I was pretty clear about why she is the absolute worst kind of Democrat

Trapper Gus wrote:At this point I'm beginning to feel that if I voice support for a candidate some posters will have a cow about that candidate.

No, I assure you, I have despised slotkin’s brand of do nothing compromise but get reelected because people are dopes, since well before you started posting here because your preferred message board got shut down.

Trapper Gus wrote:

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
It’s not moral purity. It’s realism. You’re the one living in a fantasy land of wishing it were still Ronald Reagan and Tip Oneil meeting to hash things out (lotta good those compromises ended up getting us lol, what a disaster)

The reality is that you don’t compromise when what one side wants is objectively horrible. You can’t compromise on anything. You can’t give them an inch of room or they’ll blow it wide open. We’ve seen that entirely too many times in history. The only antidote is to ruthlessly destroy them at every opportunity. Not compromise so you can throw out ads saying “look how good I am at meeting in the middle with the dictators that want to take away your rights! You only lost some rights not all!”

You’d think after being so thoroughly embarrassed after months of being hopelessly wrong you’d mind your tone, but no. You’re wrong here too.

Biden & Pelosi got some of the most sigificate Acts of the last 50 years through Congess with their ability to compromise, being sure to not make the perfect the enemy of the good.  

Anyone who has ever worked with other people knows this is how things get done.

I know you are just posturing on a message board, but matching the intolerance of the right is not the way to get things done.

Michigan badly needs a strong voice on the Ag committee & she would provide that.

“ The only party until the Republicans come back to sanity and start supporting policies that help the 99%.”


You can’t compromise with facism. Of course, you know this as evidenced by your posts. But you chose who you liked years and years ago and that won’t ever change even though slotkin would gladly march all of us to the salt mines in the name of compromise (you only have to do 10 years in the salt mines not 20! Look at me in the middle! Compromise!) 

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:

Biden & Pelosi got some of the most sigificate Acts of the last 50 years through Congess with their ability to compromise, being sure to not make the perfect the enemy of the good.  

Anyone who has ever worked with other people knows this is how things get done.

I know you are just posturing on a message board, but matching the intolerance of the right is not the way to get things done.

Michigan badly needs a strong voice on the Ag committee & she would provide that.

“ The only party until the Republicans come back to sanity and start supporting policies that help the 99%.”


You can’t compromise with facism. Of course, you know this as evidenced by your posts. But you chose who you liked years and years ago and that won’t ever change even though slotkin would gladly march all of us to the salt mines in the name of compromise (you only have to do 10 years in the salt mines not 20! Look at me in the middle! Compromise!) 

However, what you are overlooking is that compromise is possible with people who believe in facism who are also members of Congress.

I am clear on this and have been for over 20 years here and on TOB.  Republicans are evil.  

Never vote for one.

Many of you on this board have mocked me for my utter loyalty to voting for Democratics.

I also like to vote, in primaries, for Democratic candidates who are tough, experienced politicians who can get things done.

edit - IMO in a purple state like Michigan her connections with the farmers is a big positive in the general election.

Go ahead and vote for an actor who has never held an elective office, which is an honest description of Hill.

Your hatred and Trump like attack on his opponent is a bit over the top.

The Maricopa county republican recorder who certified the 2020 and 2022 elections lost his primary to a Kari Lake supported election denier.

Hold on to your butts.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna164046

kingstonlake wrote:The Maricopa county republican recorder who certified the 2020 and 2022 elections lost his primary to a Kari Lake supported election denier.

Hold on to your butts.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna164046

In Michigan these positions are fiduciary only. They have no power to deny the election results.

kingstonlake wrote:The Maricopa county republican recorder who certified the 2020 and 2022 elections lost his primary to a Kari Lake supported election denier.

Hold on to your butts.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna164046

Meh, the voters rejected Kari lake and her ilk.  Unfortunately there are enough of them that converge their vote on one candidate to help them win primaries but it's not enough for the general.  This is why I've long advocated for Democrats to set themselves up to vote in Republican primaries via whatever the requirements are.  A small movement of Dems doing this could bring sanity to the GOP by rejecting these extremist terrorists.  Difficult to build a movement like that as it may actually make it harder for Dems to win a general having a better GOP candidate, however eliminating the risk of having a terrorist in office is a worthy goal and good for the country overall. Do this nationally and we might actually get sane Republican platforms/agendas that believe in actual American values instead of this unamerican garbage they try now.

sεяεηιτλ wrote:

kingstonlake wrote:The Maricopa county republican recorder who certified the 2020 and 2022 elections lost his primary to a Kari Lake supported election denier.

Hold on to your butts.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna164046

Meh, the voters rejected Kari lake and her ilk.  Unfortunately there are enough of them that converge their vote on one candidate to help them win primaries but it's not enough for the general.  This is why I've long advocated for Democrats to set themselves up to vote in Republican primaries via whatever the requirements are.  A small movement of Dems doing this could bring sanity to the GOP by rejecting these extremist terrorists.  Difficult to build a movement like that as it may actually make it harder for Dems to win a general having a better GOP candidate, however eliminating the risk of having a terrorist in office is a worthy goal.

I hear what you’re saying but now we’re down to hoping the 227,000 votes cast in the Dem primary out weigh the 374,000 that were cast in the Rep primary. You better hop 150,000 republican votes decide to sit it out.

kingstonlake wrote:

sεяεηιτλ wrote:

Meh, the voters rejected Kari lake and her ilk.  Unfortunately there are enough of them that converge their vote on one candidate to help them win primaries but it's not enough for the general.  This is why I've long advocated for Democrats to set themselves up to vote in Republican primaries via whatever the requirements are.  A small movement of Dems doing this could bring sanity to the GOP by rejecting these extremist terrorists.  Difficult to build a movement like that as it may actually make it harder for Dems to win a general having a better GOP candidate, however eliminating the risk of having a terrorist in office is a worthy goal.

I hear what you’re saying but now we’re down to hoping the 227,000 votes cast in the Dem primary out weigh the 374,000 that were cast in the Rep primary. You better hop 150,000 republican votes decide to sit it out.

Pssshhh. You just enroll more illegal immigrants to vote. Easy peasy.

Motown Spartan wrote:

Floyd Robertson wrote:

Pssshhh. You just enroll more illegal immigrants to vote. Easy peasy.

I hear there’s a voter registration drive event this week at the county cemetery.

I just registered my 40 million sperm cells to vote.

DWags wrote:Honestly, if this man had any conscious he’d publicly apologize to this woman. She spent 15 hours in jail be Ayse the pos congressman lied an out being assaulted by her.

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again, this is an excellent reminder telling me that I am on the right side of history. These people are professional snowflakes.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer is predicting that Democrats will keep control of the Senate in the November election and he feels “exhilarated and gratified” by the surge of enthusiasm with Vice President Kamala Harris atop the party’s ticket.

Schumer, who played a pivotal role in talking privately with President Joe Biden before the incumbent’s decision to end his reelection bid, appears more optimistic than Democrats have been in confronting a tough Senate map this election defending seats in states where Republican nominee Donald Trump is popular.

“We are so enthusiastic about the prospects of winning the presidency, keeping the Senate and winning the House,” Schumer, D-N.Y., said in an interview with The Associated Press.

https://apnews.com/article/harris-trump-schumer-senate-democrats-majority-republicans-dabd1f9ea4fbb2ee8ddee7c1340ed19b

https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2024/Senate/senate_races.html

Trapper Gus wrote:

WASHINGTON (AP) — Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer is predicting that Democrats will keep control of the Senate in the November election and he feels “exhilarated and gratified” by the surge of enthusiasm with Vice President Kamala Harris atop the party’s ticket.

Schumer, who played a pivotal role in talking privately with President Joe Biden before the incumbent’s decision to end his reelection bid, appears more optimistic than Democrats have been in confronting a tough Senate map this election defending seats in states where Republican nominee Donald Trump is popular.

“We are so enthusiastic about the prospects of winning the presidency, keeping the Senate and winning the House,” Schumer, D-N.Y., said in an interview with The Associated Press.

https://apnews.com/article/harris-trump-schumer-senate-democrats-majority-republicans-dabd1f9ea4fbb2ee8ddee7c1340ed19b

https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2024/Senate/senate_races.html

Not gonna lie, but this reads like standard operating procedures.

“We are so enthusiastic about the prospects of winning the presidency, keeping the Senate and winning the House”, every political leader would say something to that effect.

I would guess he would be saying the same thing if Biden were still running...

Trapper Gus wrote:I would guess he would be saying the same thing if Biden were still running...

probably.

But in reality, the momentum for dems is palpable. Trump is pulling out all the stops to take it back and failing so far. We'll see if they can keep it going through the end.

sεяεηιτλ wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:I would guess he would be saying the same thing if Biden were still running...

probably.

But in reality, the momentum for dems is palpable. Trump is pulling out all the stops to take it back and failing so far. We'll see if they can keep it going through the end.

The media is now fluffing the Democratics forsure

Trapper Gus wrote:

sεяεηιτλ wrote:

probably.

But in reality, the momentum for dems is palpable. Trump is pulling out all the stops to take it back and failing so far. We'll see if they can keep it going through the end.

The media is now fluffing the Democratics forsure

honestly, it's weird how quickly that turned. If i were a maga i would be questioning if the government has some incredible influence over what the media reports.

Make sure to get out and vote today, especially on proposals that are snuck on the primary ballot instead of the November ballot. Shouldn't be allowed.

aualum06 wrote:Make sure to get out and vote today, especially on proposals that are snuck on the primary ballot instead of the November ballot. Shouldn't be allowed.

Just checked and my absentee ballot was received yesterday. Too bad they don't send a "I voted" sticker.

Looks like the Democratic Senate primary is going to be all about how big a vote Harper can pull out of Detroit.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-primary-elections/michigan-senate-results#democratic-primary

edit ... and then, just like that, with no reporting from Wayne County, NBC calls it for Slotkin...

edit ... fwiw Rogers is crusing on the red side.

SoS reports no problems noted in August elections.

https://michiganadvance.com/briefs/secretary-of-state-reports-safe-secure-primary-election-with-1-2m-absentee-and-early-ballots-cast/